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Letter from Broadway Business Improvement Association

If you have ideas, advice, and/or support on how to address this issue, please e-mail occupyseattle@gmail.com

The following letter was received today by Occupy Seattle via e-mail from Michael Wells, executive director of the Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce and administrator of the Broadway Business Improvement Association, on behalf of the BIA. Mr. Wells prefaced the letter with the following note:

Hi there -

My name is Michael Wells and I am the administrator of the Broadway Business Improvement Association, as well as the Executive Director of the Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce. We have had some complaints from members about the safety and sanitation issues around the occupy encampment at Seattle Central Community College and the Broadway BIA advisors board has asked me to send a letter to Occupy Seattle outlaying these concerns.

We have many member businesses who are sympathetic with the political aims of the Occupy movement, please note this letter is not a reflection on political aims or goals around Occupy Seattle. Rather it is specifically addressing issues concerning the encampment at SCCC and concerns raised by the recent examination of the encampment by the King County Public Health Department.

Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.

Michael

Michael Wells
Executive Director
Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce
1641 Nagle Pl Ste 003
Seattle, WA 98122
p 206-328-6646
f 206-829-9140
michael@caphillchamber.org

The Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce is committed to supporting an economically vital, livable community and promoting Capitol Hill as a unique urban neighborhood that is welcoming to everyone.

The content of the letter is as follows:

November 15, 2011

To whom it may concern,

The Advisory Board of the Broadway Business Improvement Association, representing over 150 businesses between Roy Street and Pine Street, has asked me write a letter laying out some of our concerns about the occupation of the Seattle Central Community College. Our concerns focus mainly on health, sanitation and safety.

The report from King County Public Health, dated November 11, 2011, points to a variety of serious concerns with the encampment, including:

  • Food borne illness risk factors
  • Communicable disease risks
  • Unstable structures with limited fire safety planning or access
  • Reports of drug dealing and illicit drug use
  • Sewage and waste water not properly disposed of, waste water disposal on ground and into storm drains
  • No effective hygiene facilities
  • Uncontrolled dogs defecating and urinating
  • Rodent activity and discarded/used syringes, needles on the ground.

These concerns are primary to the surrounding businesses. While many of the businesses (75% of Broadway BIA members are small, locally owned businesses) are sympathetic with the Occupy movement these sanitation and safety concerns are very troubling. We are concerned not only for our employee and customers experience on Broadway but for the financial burden and workload that has increased for Seattle Central Community College. Many of our customers are employees and students of the college.

We would like to see Occupy Seattle address the health and safety concerns around the encampment immediately. Surrounding business owners and residents would like to see immediate results.

Michael Wells
Executive Director
Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce
Broadway Business Improvement Association

Occupy Seattle General Assembly 2011-11-06

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-11-06 18:50
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-11-06

Facilitation Team

  • Orientation: Braidon
  • Process mover: Hudson
  • Taking stack: Alberto
  • Agenda: Michael

Campers

  • ?
    • suggested to two staff members that we should do some role playing exercises
    • respect is earned not given
    • we're developing a bad reputation in the neighborhood
    • we've forgotten what we're here for
    • when the bars close
  • ?
    • happy to hear reaffirmation that GA is for making decisions that affect the entire collective
    • hopes that in the future, decisions that affect the entire collective, like rearranging camp, are passed through GA instead of decided upon by a small group of people who seem to think their need for things to be tidy and safe according to their own ideas is more important than collective decision making. Was upset this morning about this whole thing, which she only heard about as an announcement last night. Knows many other people are upset as well.
  • ?
    • Woke up this morning to small group of people saying everyone should get up and move their tents. Justification was that it was an emergency. Last time he heard this, it was people saying we needed to move to City Hall. Such emergencies being declared makes him distrust people.
  • Matt
    • Regarding tents: It's not okay to subvert democracy.
    • Regarding drug use: Putting together a program to meet people where they are. The drug problem is not an individual's problem, it's what happens when a community fails. Also inviting Narcotics Anonymous to come, not to preach but just to be here for people.
  • Zach – Wonders why people who have not been long have blankets and tents while some who have been here since the beginning do not.
  • ? – Agrees with Matt. Thinks we should invite NA. Cleaning up our messes is a great idea. Also, adults need to watch out for younger people here.
  • ? – Knows there was much frustration with tent moving today. Might have been easier to bring to GA. Let's not make it like moving them was not necessary for fire safety. She had difficult time maneuvering around camp. The move was necessary, but might have been easier to bring to GA first. Does not believe there was some sort of power motive to control the camp by doing so.
  • ? – Shares frustration with the way the decision was made. He would have agreed to do it, but opposes ignoring of the process by which we made decisions.
    • Woke up today feeling hopeful and feels more congruity out of people by whom he's surrounded today than he did yesterday.
  • ? – Energy and mood of tent has improved since we embraced no alcohol and drug policy. This means people can continue to do whatever they want but not risk the reputation of the 99 and the college. Let's feel free to occupy Westlake. Let's have lunch down there. We're preaching to the choir up here. Everybody agrees with us here, but not so down there.
  • Alyssa – Understands desire for autonomy, but is confused about drug and alcohol policy since there are people smoking pot at GA. People are upset about processes regarding tents, when in fact we have no way to enforce anything, including rules that are needed to keep us here.
  • ? – Suggestion: Assign four hours cleaning duty to people caught smoking. "If you're going to smoke on the property, you're going to clean off the property." Is homeless, but from this neighborhood. Is in recovery. Lost her kids, her man, then her mind. She's coming back. She has friends she doesn't want to leave behind. Don't judge people. Some people have not had the things we take for granted. This is the closest thing she's had to a home in seven months. Has seven friends trying to kick heroin. Can't keep it up. Wants to help with NA.
  • Zach/Tactical – He made announcement last night about moving tents. Was not here today, so can't address what happened. Apologizes, says it was grossly inappropriate for just making that announcement. Apologizes for any inconvenience today's actions caused. Didn't mean any harm, and is sure others involved did not either.
  • Neighbor Jen – Lives nearby. Happy we're here. Happy to hear about cleaning up the neighborhood. Most of the mess is not OS's fault, but if we help clean it, the neighborhood will love us. When we decide on a way to do cleanups, announce it to the neighborhood, the Chamber of Commerce, and maybe the Capitol Hill Seattle blog, because everyone will be pleased as punch. Reiterates that cigarette butts are not biodegradable.
  • Matt – Many people have medical marijuana. Consider that when trying to scrutinize people. Anywhere they're allowed to smoke, they're allowed to use their medication.
  • Ginger
    • Did much of the tent reorganizing this morning. Many people who are upset may be directing their anger directly at her. Her actions were purely to help make this site safe. Wanted to protect us from the threat of the fire marshal inspect us and have the police sweep us out. Agrees that whole process should have been communicated more and community should have been involved more. Was not involved in organizing process, simply saw it would be difficult and painful for many people. Attempted to do it in as respectful a way as possible.
    • Woman was here looking for her lost 16 year old daughter. Daughter became drug addict since leaving. Called police intending to have them sweep our camp looking for girl. Police did not do this because they believed the story — true — that the girl left camp. Had they come in and found the camp in the condition it was this morning, they would have tripped every five feet. Would have immediately been extremely difficult and compromising position for us. Understands if people are indignant about belief that there was urgency. But if we have underage kids here who police may be looking for, we're in very difficult situation.
  • Has been looking for group to start for a long time. Wants to find a way to fit in here. With her drug use, has repeatedly dumpster dove in this neighborhood. Has probably has a few messy sessions, and would like to help with cleaning.
  • ? – Thanks Matt for reminding us that some people have medical marijuana status. Asks that people smoke it elsewhere.
  • ? – Agrees regarding medical marijuana. It's used for medical purposes. If people have authorization, should not have to worry. But do to influx of people who smoke but do not have card, everyone has a problem. People are allergic. People abuse it. Understands that it should be available for recreational use. If you choose to smoke on school grounds, you may be taught that there are consequences for your actions.

Working group announcements

  • time: 19:29

  • Jordan

    • from Occupy Portland
    • is here to do groundwork and outreach and help out
    • if you have statements, letters, words of encouragement to send to Occupy Portland, please see her
    • needs three cold volunteers who would like to get away for the night, wash some clothes, and warm up. Ride will be here around 9pm.

Medical Working Group

  • Babylonia, on behalf of WG
    • have basic hygiene supplies (e.g., tooth brushes, deodorant, cough drops)
      • email OccupySeattleStreetMedics@gmail.com
    • collecting names of people who want basic first aid and street medic training
      • stop by medical tent to leave contact info
    • tweet health and wellness info @OccupyHealthy

Media Working Group

  • Carson
    • Gathering footage, stories, etc., for The Stranger
    • deadline is tomorrow
    • have footage of police brutality or stories to share, find him tonight

Faith and Spirit Group

  • Takina
    • first meeting tonight in front of tent after GA
    • come join if you'd like to be part of WG
    • tomorrow 11am: 40-50 chaplains coming to visit
      • want to know what's going on
      • where to bring food and clothes
    • 1pm reiki practitioner, 2pm vahi guy offering prayers and heart discussion on creating culture of education
    • schedule is on the board, and on Occupy Sanctuary Web page

Learning Working Group

  • ?
    • Learning tent is open for any workshops. See calendar inside to reserve.
    • Offer learning resources to the rest of the groups
    • Contact info at tent
    • Need help from ICT to set up online resources

Kitchen Working Group

  • Emily
    • need people to clean up after themselves
      • hard to feed while also cleaning up after everyone
      • if you spill sugar or coffee, wipe down, throw stuff in the compost
      • can always help with dishes
      • need steady volunteers to fill water at Cal Anderson Park
        • if you wonder why there's no water, you can go refill for us
    • need more resources to create hot water until we set up cooking facility on site
    • have decided to close kitchen during GA
      • gives them time to prepare food, organize, clean, and encourages GA attendance
  • ?
    • made contact with Compass Center, who delivered hot meal last week, but we only had one volunteer (him)
    • if we want hot meals M-F between 12:30-1pm, delivered, prepared, supplied, by the Compass Center, need people to step up to volunteer. They're doing us a great courtesy.

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • Forest
    • Getting many requests to dance and sing for different workgroups
      • are not minstrels
      • are action-oriented working group

Permaculture Working Group

  • Albert
    • constructing passive solar greenhouse nearby
    • will soon have winter food production, water catchment, sand filter treatment, and stacking functions in demonstration project

Sanitation Working Group

  • Andrew
    • port-a-potties getting full
    • blocking off those that are full
    • to get through night, please use alternative restrooms
    • if over 21, please visit a bar
    • if under, Bauhaus Coffee open until 2:30
    • please stop throwing trash in port-a-potties; beer can takes up as much space as a couple good sized turds
    • please don't write graffiti in them; he's the only one who reads it

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • Tabitha
    • Take a good look around at our garbage cans. They're full.
    • get to know where we take garbage by 7pm for our pickup
    • please help take garbage to designated location
    • we're out of the bags we must put things in for pickup; getting more tomorrow
    • pickup spot changing from base of stairs to Harvard to concrete cove by Math and Sciences building
    • please clean up after yourselves
    • 5pm Wednesday will have guerrilla composting workshop off-site. Meet by steps, will walk over from there.
    • in five days, we'll no longer offer disposable dishes and utensils
      • please come up with your own
      • will be offering some; adopt and personalize

Tactical Working Group

  • Forest
    • friend owns Neighbors, the club at the far end of the alley. If we have bags of trash, take to far end of alley, largest dumpster

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Forest
    • Camp Safety met last night to talk about heroine and non-marijuana drug use and how to deal with it while protecting our community. Suggests group discussion about how passive our response should be.
      • discussion will happen immediately after GA

Demands Working Group

  • Justin
    • demand we passed last week is kind of worked into the City Council resolution that is to be introduced at City Council meeting tomorrow 2pm at City Hall
      • supporting OS, looking at City finances, moving money to local banks, prevent cuts of social projects and education, start looking into how elections are financed, something about cops

Facilitation and Process Working Group

  • Ed
    • changing time: starting tomorrow, one hour before General Assembly
    • that's the time to bring proposals and announcements of proposals
    • starting tonight, when people are proposing, after discussion can:
      • have a vote
      • withdraw (possibly bring back another night)
      • withdraw proposal for five minutes to go talk with people who have expressed strong disagreement, then bring it back

Action Announcements

  • Jen the neighbor
    • noticed that Occupy Wall Street had a newspaper, so she made one for Occupy Seattle
    • copies are taped up around camp and at the information tent
    • please send suggestions, respectful feedback, and story leads to comradebunny@gmail.com
  • Bernie – Seeks bands to play November 11, Veterans Day
    • US Govt, Senate and House, are discussing ways to cut veterans benefits
    • have been 4487 deaths in Iraq, 33,163 wounded
    • 1300+ killed in Agh, 15k injured, 2066 Am and Afg civilians
  • Hilary – sisters organized for survival
    • hope to form Occupy the Capitol Work Group
    • did good job with banks, now time to attack legislators
    • On November 28, WA Legislature will begin special session in which they plan to slash 2 billion dollars more from our social safety net (health care, education, social services)
      • need to storm the Capitol and to occupy it, beginning 28th, continuing as long as possible
      • if interested in participating, meet after GA
  • ? – Would like as many people as interested to occupy Westlake Park starting tomorrow. Could use help with food, making signs. Suggests working in three-hour shifts. Let's not forget visibility and send clear message that this movement is not a partisan movement (Socialist, Communist, Democrat, Republican) but about truth. Wants to make signs to make it clear we're not jobless. Only jeers he's heard are from people on the street who say, "go get a job"
  • Bob
    • Reinforces that the plan was to use SCCC as base camp, get nourishment here, then march down to Westlake daily as a group in the streets.
    • Thursday 5:30p Pier 66 – will be big banquet for port officials
      • Working Washington and other groups will be holding their own banquet in the street, along with some other entertaining and fun things. Please don't miss it. Please be a part of it.
  • Anna
    • planning action for Veterans Day. Will read The Illiad. Takes ten hours to read. Seeks volunteers to read on Veterans Day.
      • if interested, meet her after GA

Announcements of Future Proposals

  • Shawn
    • proposal:
    • will probably bring it Tuesday or Wednesday
    • now that we have Camp Safety, there is much talk of revision Good Neighbor Statement so will be more clear what we hold each other accountable to here at SCCC
  • Ed
    • proposal: all decisions instead of passing by simple majority will require 80 percent majority
      • presenter: Ed from Process and Facilitation
      • rationale: streamline
    • proposal:
      • if previous proposal passes, nature of block will change from veto to blocking concern that simply asks for reconsideration and revote
    • proposal: start all GAs at 7pm, then work hard to finish by 9pm
      • 6:30 is too early, 7:30 too late
      • regular time that is better for everyone
  • Babylonia
    • proposal to help organize our camp
      • regarding enforcement or lack thereof, Nickelsville have an elected arbitration committee; security takes issues there
    • visited Nickelsville yesterday to learn how they organize their camp
  • Andrew
    • proposal: put numbers on on tents
    • rationale: organize in more sustainable way. Understands this is autonomous movement. Organization is critical.
      • pretend we're a new colony.
        • Week one was about growth. We grew.
        • Now we're in week two, which is a delicate process. It's about sustainability and self-organization. We need to organize in a manageable way. Keep in mind that we're under a microscope. Kilpatrick did not say that our actions are legal, just that they're not illegal. Second Pres has the opportunity to kick us out, he will. Was reported in newspaper last week that drugs, other than pot, were in camp. Also that there was violence. This gives the politician a bad reputation. Let's not slip up.
    • Will introduce Tuesday.
    • Number could be on inside.
  • Robbie, Medical and other WGs
    • proposal: conduct poll and issue statement about how we're growing
    • will introduce Friday
    • wants to show world how we've changed, that the movement includes many young people

Proposals

  • proposal: General Assembly will direct Legal Working Group not to discriminate between alleged non-violent crimes and alleged violent crimes when working for the legal defense of an Occupy Seattle person charged with a crime.
    • restated: General Assembly will direct Legal Working Group not to discriminate between alleged non-violent crimes and alleged violent crimes when working for the legal defense of an Occupy Seattle person charged with a crime. The GA may choose to give specific direction to the Legal WG on a case-by-case basis.
    • restated: General Assembly will direct Legal Working Group not to discriminate between alleged non-violent crimes and alleged violent crimes when arranging for defense of an Occupy Seattle person charged with a crime during Occupy Seattle events. The GA reserves the right to give specific directions on a case-by-case basis to the Legal WG.
    • presenter: Duff
    • rationale:
      • Consulted with Legal and Process and Facilitation. Reworded based on this.
      • Crucial because there is false dichotomy between alleged violent and non-violent crimes with which OS people may be charged by Seattle police.
      • Reality is that when doing actions in the street, Seattle Police will routinely falsify arrest reports, making non-crimes into crimes. These will make alleged non-violent crimes into alleged violent crimes.
      • Must take in revolutionary new reality that came to be because of our brave brothers and sisters at Chase Bank and at Sheraton on November 2, 2011. Non-violent and violent does not describe the conditions on the ground that we encountered with the cops.
      • One of our members was charged with a violent crime that came out of interactions with police on Wednesday. This alleged violent crime caused Legal WG to be hampered temporarily in its defense of the person who was charged.
        • Alleged violent crime was assault of police officer
        • new reality came into being Wednesday, that he hopes is regular reality, if one of us can be charged with assaulting a cop, 100 of us could be charged with such.
        • No fine line between violent and non-violent crime. This is counter-revolutionary concept that divides our group
      • when one of us is in jail, all of us are in jail, regardless of the alleged crime with which our member may be charged, falsely or correctly, by Seattle Police
    • discussion
      • ? – should support people accused of violent crimes, for very practical reasons. Most likely violent crime they'll be accused of is assault of police officer. Whenever police beat someone up, they accuse that person of assault as defensive maneuver. It's naive to believe someone accused of violent crime is guilty of it. Much more likely that police are lying.
      • ? – For those of us who have been arrested for any reason for the movement, should be supported. Many ways to support the cause, both non-violently and sometimes violently. We should support people regardless.
      • Corey, Legal WG – Understands the proposers intentions are good, but proposal is short-sighted. Puts horse before the card. Knows that the police lie. Has read hundreds of reports where they lie and contradict themselves in the report. At same time, are ethical considerations by which attorneys much abide in order to continue to be attorneys. If they find they cannot ethically represent someone, cannot withdraw because they'll be disbarred. Already know that 30 or so pro-bono attorneys will not be part of this if this proposal passes. That means you will no long have attorneys, and this proposal won't matter. Legal right now is working on a proposal so that we can ensure that we'll be able to quickly determine if the police officer is lying and we can give someone representation so that we can help everyone who is part of this movement. If this passes, lawyers cannot continue to be part.
        • response: Understands and respects. Is puzzled why this proposal which is neutral about nature of crime would cause attorneys any problems. Proposal says Legal WG shall not discriminate between violent and nonviolent crimes. Does not say we must defend all people accused of violent crimes, or all those accused of non-violent crimes. Has worked with many attorneys over the years and doesn't see whey this would be offensive or threaten credentials of any attorney.
          • Attorneys cannot withdraw from a case except in very specific circumstances. They won't want to get stuck in some cases and cannot risk being disbarred.
      • ? – Many things are considered violent. Smashing a window is very different than harming another person. Giving all the B.S., supports this proposal.
      • Patricia – So long as the discretion still exists to make a determination on whether or not to defend someone, proposal is okay as stop-gap measure until Legal puts forth proposal for adjudicative team that can better make these decisions. Very important to her that everyone understands what Duff is saying, which she understands to mean that we don't automatically defend every person for any crimes. That would be impossible. Recognizes that people are sometimes accused of violent crimes who should not be. Okay with this as long as it's temporary.
      • ? – This is a slam-dunk. It's a response to Legal's hesitation to defend Henry. Should vote ASAP. If Legal has concerns, should make another proposal soon.
      • Forest – Regarding lawyers: Those who feel it is unethical to support this movement should not be with us. There are other lawyers with better ethics.
      • Daniel – If the standard Legal is stating were so, then how did the Green River Killer get adequate defense. Look at record as William Kunsler. Support this movement even if a few of us end up in a control unit. Only relying on legal system to keep out of jail.
      • Matt – If you vote this down, understand that in the majority of times, people of color will be accused with assault of an officer. To the lawyers who find it unethical to defend those people: you're bordering on racism and unethical practices. Thought principle was innocent until proven guilty.
      • ? – Questions Corey's concern: Said lawyer could be disbarred. Does someone in jail need be assigned a lawyer in order to be bailed out.
    • vote
      • time: 20:48
      • majority favor
      • blocks
        • Akila – Does tax representation before IRS. Has option to tell clients upon further review of facts of their case is no longer to represent them. However, attorneys do not have that privilege. Puts pro-bono lawyer volunteers in jeopardy. Cannot ask people work for free then to lose their license. This is poor proposal. Legal WG is working on proposal to let people to continue working for free for movement and continue to eat.
          • Need or have other attorneys to work with us. Great. But those currently representing those who have been arrested will not have representation in the matter.
        • discussion
          • Nowhere in the proposal does it state that any pro-bono lawyers must take on any case. Would assume they'll be offered choice to represent someone whether crime is violent or not. Doesn't understand why block is valid.
          • Block is invalid. Said a whole bunch of nothing, most of which he disagrees with. Didn't say anything about the foundational principles of why we're here.
          • Not only is block invalid, supposed facts about losing licenses is completely invalid. Lawyers are there to accuse people accused of crimes, both violent and non-violent.
          • This is a slam-dunk. Let's not get upset because some people have bureaucratic problems.
          • proposer: Does not direct people to defend something they don't want to defend. Provides guidance; doesn't tie hands.
          • Agrees that we need to back everyone. But when we have problems with definite answers. The other day we had proof of someone's actions, and we're being asked to back no matter what. Agrees, not guilty until proven elsewhere. Legal team is here every day. We talk to them about our issues. Need their support. Won't get it from public defenders.
          • proposer: After intense discussions with Legal, Legal have committed to have aforementioned new procedures by Tuesday. Intent is to help Legal arrange timely representation. Henry stayed in jail 24hours extra when he should have been sprung with everyone else. Need to acknowledge new revolutionary reality. One goal is to unite camp and those who might be arrested, raising revolutionary consciousness of us all. Well on our way to doing that.
    • withdrawn
      • Deferring to Legal for two days. Will reintroduce Tuesday reflecting information Legal provides.
  • proposal: Amend no-contact with police policy "The community through P and S reserve the right to contact SPD in situations that pose imminent risk to any and all Occupy Seattle participants, with P/S being recognized as individuals that provide some degree of security that any decision to call SPD will be determined by P/S members on duty. Though recognizing individual rights, P/S will act as mediators in managing said amendment, recognizing that security is a community job. When determining whether SPD should be contacted, 1) all intercommunity options should be exhausted. That such incidents that XXX that may warrant calling SPD, kidnapping, and any other incidents that pose serious risk to Occupy Seattle participants, said amendment will be XXX. Actions will be determined by community vote. It is affirmed that community does not recognize SPD as legitimate law enforcement agency, yet if situations arise that risk safety of OS participant, it is said to amend the no contact with police policy.
    • Individuals participating in OS, right to call police when physical safety is at immediate risk or in danger of such . Should only do so if Camp Safety and general community are unable to resolve said situation or are unable to hear cries for assistance. 2) If police are notified caller should make known that police are on their way so people who would prefer to avoid contact can take action 3) Affirm all parts of no-contact policy
    • restated in one sentence: If someone on this camp or people who come off the street and become part of the movement find themselves in imminent danger to which the community cannot properly respond, authorities in place now should be at that person's disposal to mitigate death, trauma, and fear.
    • presenter: Andrew and Harvey
    • rationale:
      • November 5, around 5pm, a community meeting convened and recognized that safety and the physical well-being of all who recognize the occupy movement is our number one priority.
      • Inter-community action should be our only resort. Peace and Safety should have all tools a their disposal to avoid danger
      • Meat and bones is that any individual in immediate physical risk can notify SPD.
    • discussion:
      • Opposes. We as community should be able to defend our neighbors. We must step it up for those who are unable to defend themselves. Police should never need to be called. Police contact is never good.
      • Thinks proposal was long-winded way to say, "this proposal sucks; vote no"
        • This is not about personal feelings. Shares deep reservations about contacting police. Will be at Mayor's office tomorrow to talk about this.
      • proposer: This is about liability. If someone is being raped, someone at camp should not allow personal feelings about police to prevent stopping it. What precedent are we setting for the future of this movement? Are we to have no laws?
      • Would like to find a way to make everyone in camp feel like they're part of Peace and Safety, addressing violent actions as they arrive. If someone commits serious violent crime in this camp, wants that person to be put through our current rule. If someone attacks someone here, we currently do not have any way of addressing that within our community. We have no cohesive social contract. Doesn't necessarily support this proposal, but asks that we figure out how to address this. What do we do if someone commits serious violent crime in our camp. We need to know what to do in that situation.
      • Disagrees with Harvey and the proposal. Please respect him. He stood up to cops, yelling at them for over an hour. Respect the man and respect the process.
      • The people who want cops to stay away and those who want cops to come here are two sides of same crime. One wants to bring tyranny in, others to grow it internally. Some want thugs to come in, others want thugs walking around all the time. Tyranny of state vs. tyranny of individual.
      • Safety of everyone here is most important thing. Is it legal to tell someone he can't call the cops? Is this America still?
      • His understanding of existing policy: Not an absolute policy. Its words ended with "to the extent possible".
      • One primary concern is that we're conditioned to rely on the state, with people like cops taking care of us. More important to learn to deal with our own stuff instead of continuing to rely on racists.
      • This proposal sets us back a month, as does surrounding discussion. Asks how this affects language in statement passed weeks ago, Camp Safety passed days ago. There's no acknowledgement of that.
        • proposer: This does not build in anything, but affirms accountability statement, good neighbor policy, and duty of Peace and Safety people. Does not set back any previously passed resolutions, but puts in language consequences if situations result in bodily injury to a person. If someone comes to camp and steals $5000 of equipment, that's grand larceny. Who wants to lose that over a person's feelings about the police? They are in place now. Say someone comes and does $10,000 in damage…
          • But what does this add to previous resolutions?
            • Only consensus is distaste for police. Has deep reservations. If someone is stabbing him, please call the police.
      • proposer: doesn't say we co-depend on police, just provides avenue the Peace and Safety and community as a whole cannot handle without endangering people in the community. If his safety is in jeopardy and wants to call SPD he will.
    • vote:
      • time: 21:51
      • clear minority support, proposal fails

Announcements

  • ? – Tomorrow at 7pm, will be DJ and movie projected inside. If you're cold, go inside or dance.
  • ? – When participated in Chase shutdown, witnessed one of most radical protesters, never sees, never sees here. Got under paddy wagon, and was stretched when van moved away with police holding. Yelled, licked his wounds, and went crazy like a Viking. This crazy man must have been immune to handcuffs. Only people of color and those who are not much of a threat to the police were man-handled.
  • ? – SCCC Day Care is slated to be cut. Sounds like they're engaged in same struggle as us. Thinks we should take that on.
  • Bernie – Friday march to support veterans may change to get better exposure and more veterans. Please call your relatives, email veteran friends, let them know about Friday.
  • ? – From this week on, she and other community artists will start having Thursday art-making programs for young people (or kids of all ages), to help amplify our message. This Thursday, hope to get 99 knitters and crocheters to come make 99 9" squares, which they'll put together and give the blanket to someone who really needs it. Bring supplies if you have them.
  • ? – Has idea to help save friend's small business bicycle shop at 2nd and Stewart because of big condo development.
  • Forest – Joint activity discussion postponed until tomorrow's GA.
  • ? – Can go to St. James Cathedral during day to relax in peace and pray. Sees animals around. Please take care of them before taking care of themselves. Consider getting umbrellas in anticipation of rain.
  • Shawn – When someone purports to speak for group, such as Legal tonight, consider checking with others. Also, we still do not screen proposals.
  • Michael – Hillary from Sisters Organized for Survival
    • Occupy Olympia meeting will be tomorrow 5pm at Learning Tent

Adjourned 22:01

General Assembly notes 11/05

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-11-05 19:00
  • Location: Seattle Central Community College
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-11-05

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Carol
  • Agenda:
  • Process mover:
  • Taking stack:
  • Time keeper:

Working group announcements

Faith and Spirit Working Group

  • Sakina
    • house of peace established at camp
      • will have chaplains ever day
      • 9am yoga happens here
      • 6pm sit
      • sufi dancing and singing after GAs

Food Working Group

  • Ginger
    • have orientation trainings for new volunteers every Saturday 10am
    • always need dishes washed
      • anyone can volunteer any time to wash dishes
    • phasing out use of disposable dishes
      • due to cost on environment, cost on donation resources, garbage
      • one week from now, if you want free food, must have your own bowl, so please claim one and get in habit of keeping track of it
      • response: not everyone can bring a bowl
        • Elvina – has ability to stock up on needed cutlery
        • Ginger – kitchen is capable of providing dishes for campers' use
          • will greatly increase need for people to wash dishes

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach (also from November 5 Bank Transfer Day WG)
    • today was great success
      • believes 30-40 people closed Chase and Bank of America accounts
      • about 10 people signed up with local credit unions during march today
      • swing by BECU at 2nd and Pine or Seattle Metropolitan at 3rd and Columbia (who had sandwiches, coffee, t-shirts for us)
      • had great sit-in and speak-out at 4th and Pine despite police trying to make us leave
    • yesterday and today, Tactical discussed having cleanup and reorganization of structure of camp structure
      • keep camp clean, safe, accessible, easier to move through
      • tomorrow 10am
      • encourages everyone to help us clean up our camp

Legal Working Group

  • Corey
    • realizes we have many questions for them
    • to answer, considering arranging Legal Q&A about dealing with police encounters, things to report to Legal regarding misconduct

Outreach Working Group

  • Lorrie
    • trying to get more outreach events happening around city
    • need to set a good example here
      • need peace and cooperation
      • cut down on violence, drugs, alcohol, loitering
    • if you're here, encouraged to get involved
    • want everyone to understand that we're not just here to occupy, but to get things done
    • if we all chip in, we'll get things done

Announcements of Future Proposals

  • Harvey
    • proposal: amend police no-contact policy under certain circumstances:
      • incidents that will directly threaten or endanger safety and/or health of those at camp
      • public use or consumption of drugs and alcohol is not permitted
      • we should abide by noise ordinance, particularly when people are trying to sleep at night
        • it is affirmed under good neighbor policy
      • zero tolerance for theft, physical altercations that may or may not result in harm or bodily injuries
        • extenuating circumstances will be considered
      • not saying we need police; can police ourselves, but should reserve right to exercise our right to call police under some circumstances
      • will be in our best interest to ensure our safety and longevity of this movement
    • final draft available tomorrow
    • many people he's in contact with show support for this
  • Duff
    • change policy regarding to something like, Legal WG will defend all occupiers engaged in a Seattle Occupation event when charged with any crime and provide that person with contacts for pro-bono representation, bail that person out and otherwise defend this person unless full GA decides to make exemption from this blanket defense policy
      • in other words, we should assume that all occupiers are worthy of defense
      • must not allow situation like Henry's to develop again
    • amend general assembly directive that they will only defend, represent, and bail out of jail those occupiers accused of non-violent crimes
      • emergency GA Thurs night caused many people to think that division between violent and non-violent crimes is inadequate to reflect realities on the ground when interacting with police
      • reflects widespread understanding that Seattle PD routinely falsifies reports so minor charge becomes major charge, seems on paper to be violent but actual incident involved nothing violent
  • Mohawk
    • intends to propose: three-strikes policy on drug and alcohol use. First strike, kicked out for the day. Second, 38-72 hours. Third: permanently. But if you're alcoholic or drug-addicted, can find help with better managing oneself.
      • intends just to set some ground rules
    • intends to propose: similar to drug/alcohol policy; if you have problem, should find resources to help like counseling
    • regarding smoking in tents: there is straw everywhere. Let's avoid Great Fire of Occupy Seattle. Tents will burn fast from one cigarette spark.

Announcements

  • Ginger
    • Was on peace and safety crew last night that dealt with the woman
      • regarding Henry getting poked with needle
        • entered tent and began dialogue with people inside
        • as continued, were working on getting them to leave camp
        • during process, Henry picked up needle with gloved hand
        • went to find bottle for makeshift sharps container, bottle she brought was not adequate
        • she feels responsible, never dealt with this before
        • in process, Henry accidentally poked himself in the chest
      • tried to get people to leave for a few hours, eventually broke down into psychotic break
      • commotion and noise resulted in belief that best thing was to eject people from camp
      • police soon showed up; unknown if called or just showed up
      • police and fire truck showed, examined people who were visibly high on heroine, then left
      • people were left on street corner to fend for themselves
      • peace and safety crew felt that camp mandate required that IV drug users needed to be removed for safety
    • request more discussion and more specific parameters for future situations
  • Josh
    • Have been occupying foreclosure auctions every Friday
    • two Fridays ago, shut it down
    • since, went to King County Council and demanded that the put a foreclosure moratorium and force banks to do the right thing
      • got two commitments so far
    • need more people this Friday
      • will occupy the auction, then visit Attorney General's office
    • 9:30am Friday, 600 1st Ave
    • nobody should have their dreams auctioned off in this state
  • Ed
    • this is Occupy Wall Street not Occupy Palestine
    • APAC, Israel PAC is having fundraiser in Seattle tomorrow night
    • let's tell them nobody should be buying Congress, particularly those who spend it to make Congress spend our
    • 4:30pm Westin Hotel between 5th and 6th, Virginia and Stewart, about an hour
      • plenty of time to get back for GA
  • Forest
    • just got out of jail after being locked up since Oct 16
    • saddened by disharmony in community
    • on Monday, has surprise for GA. Please attend.
  • Sharla
    • thanks everyone for handling of situation last night; contained it well
    • Camp Safety will meet tonight at 9:30 at Safety Tent to begin discussing everything; please join
  • Mohawk
    • willing to do laundry
      • has washer and dryer at home
      • can't do blankets, but shirts, socks, etc. okay
      • leaving at 3pm Sunday, returning Monday 9am
  • ?
    • Learning Tent opens Sunday 10am
    • nice selection of books
    • around 1pm will be teach-in on socialism and revolution
  • Chris Mobley
    • just read article today on Capitol Hill Seattle blog about child care program here at SCCC slated to closd Dec 15 due to budget cuts
    • let's oppose this
    • working families who attend SCCC are organizing to oppose and find alternatives
    • we could easily find common cause with their struggle

Discussion

  • time: 19:44
  • Prior to GA, were having group discussion about:
    • what makes our would make us feel safe in this situation of occupation
    • what we want to do in order to become safer
  • Mohawk
    • observed situation with IV drug users last night
    • people did better job of dealing with it than he's seen before
    • dumping them street-side was not good; need to look out for each other
  • Scott
    • grew up in Puget Sound, attended Fauntleroy Elementary
    • works for Sound Transit, only non-union agency in the state
    • about to lose house to presumptive foreclosure
      • because he's arguing with Bank of America
      • told them he'll stop paying if they don't return stolen payments
        • have paperwork to prove, looks bad for bank
      • Bank of America tried to break into his house
      • called police
      • Kirkland Police did not arrest anyone
      • installed cameras and recording equipment
      • was then sued by Webster Bank
      • asks us to go to King County Records, Superior Court Webster Bank NA vs. Scott McAllen
      • Webster Bank is suing on behalf of Bank of America
        • suit extended by Judge Bruce W. Hillyar
      • has never been arrested, but may now be because BWH may be most powerful man in Washington State
        • try to find his picture; probably cannot
        • as presiding judge last year appointed himself to Scott's case
    • response: suggest contacting The Consumerist, national website that many people read about people being screwed by big corporations when story goes from local to national

Adjourned 19:54

General Assembly notes 11/04

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-11-04 18:40
  • Location: Seattle Central Community College
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-11-04

Facilitation Team

  • FIXME: review audio

  • Facilitator:

  • Agenda:
  • Process mover:
  • Taking stack:
  • Time keeper:

Campers

  • Mohawk
    • FIXME: review audio
  • ?
    • Online, read "Parents fear OccupySeattle too close to day care"
      • KIRO-TV reports some parents considering moving their kids due to what they're seeing from protesters (spoking pot and drinking)
      • some classes being held inside
      • OccupySeattle says they're being good neighbors
    • suggests that we adopt zero-tolerance policy regarding use of alcohol and other drugs
    • we're being disrespectful to people who donate and trust us
  • ?
    • would like to engage campers more
    • many are using place to sleep
    • recommends we move GA to middle of camp so they'll hear us
    • wants campers to be another category for progressive stack
      • has seen people who don't sleep overnight show up when convenient, then take leadership
      • dislikes being awoken by someone who doesn't camp here after working at camp, sleeping a couple hours
  • ?
    • Camped at Westlake before coming here
    • Was hushed at GA yesterday
    • Walked by a group congregating in discussion, was told to leave the group when he was there only to listen. They said they didn't want the distraction. Asked how his listening was a distraction.
  • Tabitha
    • Has been camping with OccupySeattle for almost a month (and not camping and not sleeping)
    • Is excited by progress here, but feels we're being held back
    • It's unfair to those who are here for a revolution, not a party
    • People talk about not finding a vein, about how they like to smoke crack
      • Smells are in our camp. People using other people's tents for drug use.
      • Amount of alcohol in camp is disgusting. We're paying to recycle lots of hard alcohol and beer bottles.
    • Select few may ruin it for everyone
      • not just
      • not part of this cause
    • Until people can come back and participate, don't need them here
    • Need social services
    • Doesn't believe in targeting
    • Saw two kids, 14 years old, who spent the night
      • As an adult, feels it necessary for us to take accountability for these children
    • Should stop being wishy-washy and take responsibility
    • This is a safety issue for all of us
  • ?
    • Users of alcohol are belligerent, don't want to hear complaints, only to drink
    • Told a few people not to be so open with their drinking
      • They fought back, said it's none of his business
      • Looked around for security, but there was none
    • Drug dealers find shelter here
      • will tell others to come get it here
    • Heard college employee ask someone where she could buy some cannabis
      • person pointed her toward a tent
  • ?
    • Has copies of statements previously passed by GA that have fallen out of everyone's attention. Will distribute them.
      • Occupy Seattle Anti-oppression and accountability principles
      • Declaration of Decolonize / Occupy Seattle
  • Michelle
    • first time speaking
    • is a medic
    • is collecting donations so she can set up Red Cross training for first aid and CPR so medics can help out anytime
      • if class doesn't work out, will donate to Occupy Seattle general fund
  • Bob
    • transitional announcement
      • from faculty who welcomed us resolutely, without whose help we would not be here
      • they are highly disturbed about reports we're all hearing
      • wanting to make it crystal clear that they will not be able to back us if behavior that has been going on continues
      • this is warning in black and white; not open to debate
      • if we don't change behavior, we'll be looking for another home
      • expect proposal later dealing with how to solve this problem and support it
  • ?
    • is from Idaho
    • someone stole his truck nine days ago
    • stumbled into us at Westlake, cold, no money, no credit cards
    • was given blankets, food, and cigarettes
    • likes to drink
    • felt drinking in his tent was better than doing so on the street
    • was wrong; no resentment, no hard feelings or ill will
    • was never out of control
    • is here to help until he gets back to Idaho
    • suggests making signs that say no drugs, no alcohol, and post them prominently to let community know we don't condone this, regardless of what they hear
  • Mike

    • Nickelsville's structure master
    • this is what they do, not what we should do:
      • Every camper is registered
      • Every tent is numbered
      • Every tent is mapped
      • Every camper who does not have a head position (elected) does two security shits per week
        • Everyone does an equal amount of work
  • GA moves

Working group announcements

Food Working Group

  • Ginger
    • phasing out use of disposable utensils and
    • after one week, you must provide your own vessel
  • Emily
    • kitchen orientation Saturday 10am, meet outside kitchen if you'd like to volunteer
      • crew will meet at 8:30
    • if you see dirty dishes, are welcome to wash them

Sanitation Working Group

  • Andrew
    • please put your stuff in the right bins
      • losing signs; if you find them missing, notify him
    • please, please, please, don't put trash in port-a-potties; it costs extra to fish it out

Fundraising Working Group

  • Fred
    • good things happening in Greenwood
    • invited to Greenwood Art Walk
    • need stores and coffee houses that would be interested in selling our yard signs
      • if there's a place you know of where they know you as a customer, let him know and he'll provide more info

Medical Working Group

  • Mohawk
    • nearly froze last night
    • recommends after GA we distribute coats we have in storage

Morale Working Group

  • Akila
    • having exciting events tomorrow at Westlake
        • candy for cool people
    • very excited to present the first mannequin and manicures event
    • Nina and she will bring Anne Taylor mannequin to begin

Legal Working Group

  • Corey
    • everyone who was arrested Wednesday was unable to get through
      • has been remedied; can now call from King County Jail
    • working on proposal to determine how to use pro-bono and financial resources for bail and bond
      • for now, need to have some idea of what Legal should do when we need to make decisions
      • Can bring to emergency GA, or let Legal can have discretion until that proposal
        • temperature check: which preferred

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • ?
    • working with Tactical to restructure WG
    • working to establish conflict mediation body, which is essentially a judicial body
      • this proposal will take effect as soon as it passes
      • rationale: address serious issue
    • this college has done something very few spaces in this country have done for Occupy Movement
      • they realize they're part of the 99 percent
      • gave us this space
      • let's not let our stupidity cause us to lose it
      • this is not Burning Man
      • this is not the back alley of a Phish show
    • if you're just here to party, please leave
    • space should be reserved to launch actions against the ruling class
    • doesn't want a few drunks and drug users ruin the last best hope of the working class
  • David
    • we are responsible for integrity of camp
    • we're on verge of losing camp if our behaviors don't change immediately
    • need everyone's help because WG is in process of restructuring
    • if you see someone breaking agreement with school, particularly with alcohol and other drugs, please say something
    • if WG asks for help, please help
    • when they find someone drinking, etc., have had success with one person addressing, lots of people supporting behind, allowing lots of space
    • should be no alcohol or other drugs tonight
    • first de-escalation training was tonight
      • encourages participation in future trainings
  • Sharla
    • Sunday 1:45pm, meet here, will walk together to off-site indoor space, then start at 2pm
    • Tuesday 7pm, meet here for 2-hour de-escalation training taught by CEO of Roots Shelter; trainings reputed to be excellent
      • please be on time

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • Tabitha
    • tonight, after GA, will meet at Bauhaus Coffee to discuss
      • plan of action for guerrilla composting,
      • solar panels that are coming
      • guerrilla gardening
    • new trash and recycling service
      • have service picking these up. Must use bags they provided. Pick up is at bottom of steps at Harvard nightly by 7pm
    • Sunday 3pm at the tent, will have garbage and recycling workshop
    • reuse everything: cups, plates, utensils. Stop throwing everything in the garbage.

Media Working Group

  • Alliana
    • have some new recruits
      • one is excellent press release writer and has lots of experience
    • purpose of Media WG is to paint this movement in positive light
      • alcohol and drug use does not help us do this
      • need help doing so

Facilitation and Process Working Group

  • Michael
    • biggest GA he's seen in a week, sees old faces and new
    • GAs take time, listening, debate, thinking
    • are good for large decisions that affect us, but not for emergencies
    • if you have suggestions about how to facilitate better, please join

Demands Working Group

  • Justin
    • City Council was set to vote on something similar to our demand
      • rescheduled, date TBA
      • will notify so people can come out in force
    • moved from outside See's Candies to Convention Center, still 4pm
    • thinking of working with the Getting Money Out of Politics group
    • working on large series of demands based on information gathered from all of us
    • meeting Sundays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays

November 5 Bank Transfer Day Working Group

  • Zach
    • had mini-action today, got five Bank of America and Chase customers to go pull their money out in small groups
    • at 11:00am tomorrow: big action at Westlake
    • at 12:30, march will leave to got to various credit unions to sign people up

Learning Working Group

  • Norm
    • organizing de-escalation skills workshop
      • tomorrow 1pm at SCCC

Action Announcements

  • Bernie
    • with his friend James, will get more people to protest illegal foreclosures at County Courthouse on doorsteps where they do auctions
      • had 20 people in past, had five today
      • made noise, were able to do auctions, though
      • need more people
      • Fridays 10am – noon, County Courthouse, 500 4th Ave
    • his friend, Tiananmen Square survivor, suggests busing to Olympia
    • November 11 is Veterans' Day
      • don't need to be veteran to march with veteran
  • ?
    • teaching yoga tomorrow at 9am
  • Jane
    • please join every Friday morning to protest illegal housing foreclosures
    • must organize, know what we want, what our agenda is, be united, go to Olympia, and force changes to the law
    • banks should serve people, not foreclose on their houses
    • suggests marching in Olympia one day at date on which we all decide
  • Furtree
    • is recovering alcoholic
    • needs our support
    • alcoholics need each other to carry each other
    • would like to meet others Saturday 4pm in front of Medical
  • Josh
    • works in kitchen
    • carries a guitar, doesn't hear much music or liveliness
    • if you have an instrument or can sing, please bring some liveliness to camp
  • ?
    • Capitol Hill Housing Improvement Project
      • started as community housing project
      • but every year, rent increases
    • no rent control in Washington State, so rents keep increasing
    • in New York and California, there is rent control
    • idea was floated in WA 40 years ago, but no changes have come
    • about 10 years ago, related issues were raised, but it died
    • many of us here are homeless because we can't afford rent because there's no rent control
  • Shawn
    • just cycled here from Canada with friend Emily
    • want to facilitate activity with music and creativity to remind participants how precious and unique they are
      • meet after GA to discuss

Proposals

  • time: 19:54
  • proposal: peace enforcement team be established as mandated security, be trained and identified as members of team, have voluntary membership. Nobody will be admitted as a member before training. Working as cohesive until that represents diversity of Occupy Seattle. Supporting as non-participatory members of rallies and demonstrations. Will be held accountable for incident log book, watch roster,
    • restated: camp safety team be established as mandated security, trained and identified as members of this team. Membership is voluntary. No one will be permitted to be functioning member of team prior to proper training and member training for term of membership. FIXME: review audio
    • presenter: Josh, Sharla, and Henry
    • rationale:
      • address security problems
    • details:
      • purpose of log book is to pass information among members across shift changes. Will be written in a way it can't be used against us. Will be destroyed after short period of time (possibly 7 days).
      • adaptable situational protocol is a changeable, adjustable, work in progress
    • discussion:
      • Analyssa – strongly opposes; similar to police system we have now
        • response: does not get rid of individuals and affinity groups; please offer suggestions for improvement
      • ? – regarding #4: Doesn't think there should be anything fluid or adaptable with this proposal. Needs to be concrete.
        • response:
      • Gen – Opposes. Adamantly refrained from adopting non-violence statement. To talk about principles we've adopted being enforced, the people proposing should have more thorough understanding of principles adopted. Seems very bureaucratic. Won't put safety to vote or bureaucracy, but act on it like he hopes everyone else would. Thinks this recreates a policing model. Very easily could empower police to crack down on us, if for instance, we have records of illegal things happening that they could get their hands on. Endangers not only individuals recorded but entire encampment. Police could subpoena documents, or if we had them laying around without serious security, an undercover agent could walk in and take them. If plan is to destroy records, why have them in firs place. Just talk to people. Should be building community, getting to know each other and supporting each other. Doesn't include policing each other and putting each other in danger. If you want to destroy records, do it preemptively.
      • ? – This isn't a police force. Police are not controlled by any democratic body. Police are authorized to get into your house with warrant. This just designates a few people to handle difficult situations. Nothing in this proposal prevents people from defending themselves. Just putting a few point people, faces we already know, in the position to help the community. Doesn't matter if we call them that or not. The college will not listen to us if we say we had a conscious change. If we say we created a new enforcement strategy, they'll hear that. This is a little bureaucratic, but the college is very bureaucratic. We can take this to them to get them to hesitate before kicking us out. Believes that log book should be replaced by people talking. Supports proposal aside from log book.
      • proposers solicit amendment regarding log book
        • proposed
        • amended
        • amendment: no log book
      • ? – Reminds us that historically, creating an enforcement has diffused collective efforts to enforce. So maybe people don't accept the conscious change, but reality is that she knows that when police are taking care of things, she closes her tent and minds her business. Doesn't want to live in such a camp. People have already taken responsibility like Minute Men. Cops killed that. Believes unintended consequences will come from this well-intended proposal.
      • ? – Was going to speak strongly against log book. Now supports proposal. Thinks it's important to have a group like this, one, preferably with better name, democratically held accountable to this body. Even though we need to work on details of how to keep camp safe, this is a step forward. We cannot have written records, whether it's official log book or not. Those would be a huge weapon in the hands of the college president and police. Need to hold group accountable to us and not keep written records. Later could add right to recall people in the group who do not uphold code of conduct being established. Major problem already. Let's not repeat it.
      • clarification: code of conduct is for members of the team. GA will would be well off to devise separate code of conduct for all of Occupy Seattle.
      • ? – Supports. What we've done so far has been chaotic and just caused more problems. If we don't adopt this, we'll lose our space. Let's have faith in ourselves and avoid that.
      • Tabitha – Heard that at Nickelsville, whole encampment is responsible for doing security duty. Likes that idea. Empowers everyone, would help us all be trained for dealing with tense situations, not only at camp but at protests. Should reformulate to be not just volunteers but everyone, who takes courses. Does not like the enforcement part of proposal. Enforcement seems harsh. Makes her think of police. Thinks needs to be concrete consequences for violation of guidelines. Currently we only acknowledge SCCC's policy. Should have policy to deal with issues in more concrete way. Is okay with removing someone for a day.
        • response: regarding consequences: this group would not be involved. Would be another group made up of many people, to determine consequences. Adaptability is critical in security situations to adapt to, for example, new police tactics or outside threats. Should not become rigid security group.
      • ? – People sometimes use marijuana medicinally and should not be punished. FIXME: review audio for second point
        • response: need to address situations in a safe way, so people will undergo peaceful mediation training.
      • ? – Last week has been a test for everyone. When faced with chaos, will we build police force or create a new world? People are angry and don't know where to put their energy. Last night, common response when witnessing conflict was to ignore it. If this passes, people need to stop doing that; don't let the point people take care of our problems like the police have conditioned us to look to them.
      • ? – Supported this until the word 'trust' came up. Nobody in the community should put trust in select individuals rather than in the community as a whole. If elite group is trusted, trust won't be given to rest of community.
      • ? – Two incidents tonight affect his feelings about the proposal. Spoke with visitor from Occupy Olympia. Asked about Peace and Safety at their camp. Each night from dusk to dawn, they have patrols by P&S committee wearing orange vests. Said it's quite effective. Just now, when we were moving from plaza to this location, came across man with beer can in his hand, drinking his beer. Asked him respectfully if he was drinking beer. Responded affirmatively. Asked if he knew we were discussing right then all the problems with drug and alcohol use. He said he has right to drink wherever he wants and that he wants to drink walking down the street. Invited the man to drink off-camp. Had polite conversation. Without clear cut policy, did not feel comfortable taking conversation further. This action caused him to walk to sidewalk where he likely finished his beer. These two incidents affected his feeling about the proposal. Inclined to to support, but is concerned about adjudicative body. Sounds bureaucratic, as if we're modeling police system we're battling to dismantle. Common sense alternative is for P&S committee to be responsible directly to general assembly after GA has specific guidelines.
        • response: attended adjudicative committee meeting. Work in progress. Deals with people who enter, act violently or steal our property. Would take group of peers and have them make decision so peace and safety are not judge and jury. Wants to deal with flaws in existing structure.
      • Bob – Strongly supports. Each of us must be responsible. If we are, work of committee will be minimal. Unfortunately, what we have not demonstrated ability to do this. Need to look at the old and see what we can bring with us. Let's not just burn it all down, just burn what's bad and bring the good. Ultimately, this bad stuff will wither away. But not soon.
      • ? – Favorite quote: If world is to be saved, will not be saved with old minds and new programs, will be new minds and no programs.
      • proposer: adjudication body: they're willing to remove that
        • we're proposing this to avoid getting kicked out
        • people are getting hight in camp and stealing things
      • amendment: no adjudicative body to be created
      • amendment: named Peace Empowerment
      • ? – Supports this but feels the community needs to be involved. Peace empowerment should be up to all of us. Everyone should be directly involved. Good for now to have volunteers, but would like to see us transition to form of peace and empowerment that empowers all of us.
      • Ted – Understands people's concerns about this coming off as some elite talk force. It won't be. Concerned about slightest possibility of creating police force.
        • Suggests that GA at any time when deciding that group should not for any reason continue to exist, GA can recall it instantly.
          • response: Agrees. If GA ever wants to do so, should do so.
      • Albert – Correction to earlier statement: At first GA, at federal building, and we adopted solidarity with Wall Street.
      • ? – came down tonight to find out if we'd take action on this. Many people won't get involved if we do not.
      • ? – Doesn't see this as creating police force. Police are not drawn from community, unarmed, using just their wits, accountable to community. If someone messes up, won't be smoke filled room full of rich old white dudes, but will be accountable to us.
      • Shawn – Sounds great as long as we all remember our responsibility to take a shift and support others during their shifts. Essential to have people focused specifically on safety certain times, not distracted. Also essential to have training for people before they participate. Just like with any WG, if GA grows unhappy, can pull it. Suggests we call it Camp Safety because it's less pretentious. Mab
      • Rhiannon – Has been around since beginning. Please consider basic necessities like port-a-potties, donations of medical supplies, food, coats, etc. What will people do if this is no longer provided? Let's turn this around.
      • ? – This is not elementary school. Why does he feel we're choosing class president? Proposal establishes false pretense of predisposition that supports an order of capitalistic hierarchy that OS is already against as collective of open-minded and free-thinking individuals. Can do this with alliant conscious of everyone. Should not even flirt with the thought.
      • Matt – Nothing in the wording states anything about enforcing nonviolence. If this passes, cannot be used to impose on others what nonviolence means, or their own pacifist religious beliefs. State cannot be smashed in one week. If we leave it to wither on its own, it won't. We need to activly make that happen.
        • proposed amendment: specifically state that security is everyone's responsibility and we're free to organize in affinity groups to keep each other safe.
          • amendment accepted
        • proposed amendment: say that new WG will not operate when we're engaged in struggle in general. In other words, this will only operate to keep camp security. When trying to devise tactics in front of, say, chase bank, this group will not dictate tactics.
          • response: What if on #5, proposer strikes direct actions?
          • direct action added not so we can interfere, specifically says not participate, just stand with you as observers and to be extra eyes in those situations
          • amendment accepted
      • ? – Supports. Feels it is important, despite feelings of dislike for authority to need a unified response. When neo-Nazis entered Saturday, some wanted to do nothing, some slept, some wanted to chant and yell, some wanted to beat them. Prefers nonviolence but believes we should be unified to deal with all enemies, including real cops we may need to face.
      • ? – Suggests we make this a duty, and that everyone must participate.
      • ? – Let's train everyone so everyone knows how to do this.
      • vote
        • time: 21:15
        • proposal passes

Announcements

  • Zach – In Oakland, another Iraq Veteran was beaten by police
    • was held 18 hours without medical treatment
    • has ruptured spleen
    • was walking by himself not even part of protest
    • police officers told him to go away
    • he asked why, cops hit him in arms, legs, back, four officers tackled him
  • Shawn, Process and Facilitation
    • mandate was for rotation; not rotating much
    • please get involved
  • ? – Do we still need palates? Has business with access to many surplus palates.
  • ? – Addressing statement made at GA saying we don't have internal code of conduct. In fact we have at least two. One is Declaration of Decolonize / Occupy Seattle. Other is Occupy Seattle Anti-oppression and Accountability Principles.
  • ? – Reports from two meetings:
    • Labor Caucus meeting
      • Most labor union members are extremely supporting of the OWS movement nationally and of ours in Seattle.
        • Sensitive to not wanting to co-opt the movement in any way but provide supplies and political support in whatever way we decide democratically.
        • Faculty union has same attitude.
    • SCCC Faculty meeting
      • 24-hour teach-in on Wednesday as part of national day of teach ins. Want this to be educational moment for occupiers and students.
    • We should seriously consider taking up political actions like we do against banks but for massive budget cuts of social services at federal and state level. Everyone struggling under brunt of these cuts can effectively support each other.
  • Tabitha – Have been in contact with SCCC president et al. Having this meeting weekly on Tuesdays. If interested in sitting in or learning more about what happens, talk to her, Joshua, Bob Barnes, Alyssa in Supply or others who attended. Meeting was pretty casual. President was very pleased and impressed by amount of organization. We're doing a good job, working out kinks. Will get better.
  • Justin – If anyone knows students from UW, Seattle University, Cornish, Antioch, other community colleges, let him know (get in touch with Demands WG).

Adjourned 21:28

General Assembly notes 11/01

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-11-01 19:35
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-11-01

Facilitation Team

  • Process mover: Shawn
  • Agenda: Jesse
  • Taking stack: Joshua
  • Time keeper: Evonne

Campers

  • David – Has been lots of partying that breaks the agreement between us and Seattle Central. That could cause us to lose our camp quickly.
  • Devon – Usually keeps track of what happens at camp at night. Has usually been good, but have been a few petty and childish conflicts. Has otherwise been a great experience.
  • Elvina – Being at the occupation is sometimes tiresome, but can't think of a better way to spend her time, money, and energy
  • Alisha – Day one of the new location (Seattle Central): Was told she'd be provided with tent and warm blankets. That didn't happen. Instead, she slept on cold ground. Asked for help from people nearby. They didn't help. Woke up at 4:30 a.m., in the rain, and received help from Medical. Seeks ride to Occupy Los Angeles, halfway there, or maybe to Wall Street in New York. Needs to reach Wall Street by November 23.
  • Taylor – Visiting Seattle from Montana. Appreciates that everyone has been very kind to him.
  • Nicole – Has been saddened by seeing fellow campers consider securing a campsite a huge victory. The work has barely begun. Need to encourage fellow campers that this will be a long, hard, battle, and that we cannot relax, because that's what our adversaries expect us to do. We should encourage campers to come to Westlake Park as long as that's where our GA is held.
  • Albert – Has been here since day one. Spent lots of time at Federal Building, more at Westlake Park. Last weekend, moving to SCCC was beautiful. Since then, has come to Westlake. Today, he was the only one here. Seems odd.
  • Devon – Will have to be compassionate to get people who do not want to work much to find passion for and put effort into this movement.
  • Elvina – Agrees that it is concerning to see loss of motivation. Portland, LA, Honolulu (which just started), all do spontaneous marches, continually building morale, without GA consent, independently. If we want something done, instead of bringing it up at the GA, just do it. Suggests everyone marching to Westlake tomorrow. If nobody is here, the City one. Doesn't want to feel that we spent so much time arguing, sleeping in the cold, for nothing. Need to re-take this place.

Working group announcements

time: 19:55

Direct Action Working Group

  • Jennifer – discussed daily marches 5pm, to Westlake Park, through financial district, with signs, noisemakers

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • David
    • Have three deescalation trainings scheduled at Seattle Central:
      • Friday 4pm
      • Sunday 1pm
      • Tuesday 7-9pm by someone with 20 years of experience
    • Is essential for P&S members to attend these trainings
    • 10pm meeting tonight at SCCC at tent across from Information
    • Have immediate, important concerns
      • drinking and other things happening
        • known to the college
        • we'll lose our space if we don't turn it around rapidly
        • no alcohol or other drugs allowed on the property
          • P&S need help
        • had to apologize to students and faculty about this

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach
    • At today's meeting, began discussion of issues of civility (or lack thereof) at GA. Are working toward suggestions, possibly proposal, to sort out these problems.
    • Inter-team communication role: Encouraging more people to attend nightly 9pm meeting (SCCC, in grass by monsters) to discuss rolls, responsibilities of working groups. Started last night, went well. Don't need to be on working group to attend.

Legal Working Group

  • Corey
    • If have questions about legality or potential consequences of activities or potential activities, Legal are here to answer them.

Sanitation Working Group Committee

  • Jackson
    • Things going well at SCCC. Many people cleaning up after themselves and others.
    • We produce lots of waste, but have no set place to put it.
    • Please use alternatives to port-a-potties. They fill fast and are expensive to empty.
    • Seeking volunteers.

Information Working Group

  • Timber
    • Need volunteers. Only have 2-3 people all week long.
    • We know as much as he does, more if we have space-age mobile phones. Please help.

Money in Politics Working Group

  • Craig
    • New WG
    • Meet Sundays 3pm, in front of See's Candies at Westlake Park
      • Will probably meet there, then move to first floor of Convention Center
    • We have U.S. Congress for sale. The 1% have been buying Congress.
      • Effects every issue: tuition cost, environment, jobs, labor rights
      • Must change it. Will change it.
      • Discussing strategies for serious, authentic, change

Finance Working Group

  • Ted
    • WG doesn't really exist yet
    • Needs people who have access to bank account and funds being raised to come together to make a plan, then bring it to the GA.
    • Maria from kitchen requests

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Danica
    • Need more volunteers
      • contact OccupySeattleICT@gmail.com or talk to Danica

Announcements of Future Proposals

  • none

Proposals

  • time: 20:11
  • proposal: Occupy Seattle is a non-violent protest. We will not engage in violence unless in defense of ourselves or others. Unsolicited or un-instigated acts of violence are not what we stand for, because our mission is strong enough and our words are strong enough to stand on their own. Create a two-strike policy. First violation would result in request to leave for the night. Second to leave permanently.
    • restated: 1) Occupy Seattle is a non-violent movement. We will only engage in violence if in self-defense or defense of others. Then, it is violence, not intelligence. Multiple courts have ruled that words of hatred, words associated with bigotry or racism are violent in themselves. This proposal is not about whether we should allow people who focus a movement or people around an idea of bigotry or racism.
    • restated: We are a non-violent movement. We intend to create a conflict resolution board that will lead to another proposal. For the time being, if anyone is the aggressor of a violent action, they will be remove with minimal force for the rest of the day to maintain safety, until the GA decides.
    • restated: Occupy Seattle will be officially a non-violent movement. We don't tolerate people who are violent toward others, whether members or non-members. If someone is violent, he or she will be removed from the camp and allowed to discuss the situation later. And right now to propose a resolution in the future about a conflict resolution.
    • intends for it to be used when a member is violent toward another
    • presenter: Corey
    • discussion
      • Allana – Punitive justice doesn't work. Doesn't acknowledge messiness of movement. When we react by defending ourselves, we're merely products of that system. Role of Peace and Safety and Legal, and the whole community, is to engage survivors.
      • ? – If doesn't change nature of movement, no need to debate this. Any action can be construed as non-violent. Doesn't want tribunal to decide where on violent to non-violent someone's action lies.
      • Mitch – Opposes because it would give P&S more laws to arbitrarily enforce based on their mood swings. Last night, P&S guy picked fight, took it out, got beaten, then came back and claimed assault.
      • Bob – Is conflicted about the proposal. Needs another amendment, one that Patricia will soon raise. Concerned that when there are no procedures in place, we're allowing behavior such as sexual predation, thievery, and violence, to run amok, affecting safety of camp and movement at large.
      • ? – Requests clarification. What is violence? What is self defense or defense of others? How to enforce?
        • requester: SD is protecting yourself against violence of others. Defending other is same but violence toward someone else. Wants us to unify behind non-violent message. He can't be here if it's not a non-violent movement.
      • Elvina – Tolerance for violence is unfair and inhumane. Doesn't envision society in which someone can harass her, demean her, get physical with her, and be slapped on the wrist or admonished. Wants society in which she can feel safe. Fact is that rape victims, PTSD, say they cannot be here because people insist on being violent. Father was violent. Rapists were violent. Everyone around her seems to be violent. If this movement shows no regard for this suffering, she wants no part of it.
      • ? – Cannot stop violence. It's a violent world. There are wolves and rapists, people who will hit each other. All we can do is try to exclude that kind of behavior. We have no way to make regulations or police it without it turning into "this".
      • Patricia – Concern with two strikes rule is that it will turn into he said, she said, and there's no real process, both sides won't get heard. Tonight, we're not ready to create a dispute resolution system. Suggests putting forth a stop-gap measure until we establish dispute resolution process.
        • requester: XXX continue asking the potential aggressor to leave for the night and welcome back later to sort things out
      • ? – Two suggestions 1) change "non-violence" to "direct physical aggression". Captures more of what most of us consider violence. Non-violence can be interpreted many ways. 2) Instead of two strikes and you're out, how about two strikes and a few counseling sessions instead.
        • requester: intent is important
      • point of process: hearing that we need more discussion; suggests creating working group, discussing outside
      • point of process: we adopted statement of non-violence at last GA at federal building
    • vote
      • time: 20:44
      • 6 counters average: 41 favor, 27 oppose
      • blocks:
        • This proposal is evidence that most of our minds are operating in binary, colonial way. Blocking is not endorsing violence. Must aspire for nonviolence. Should empower everyone to employ all tactics necessary to ensure that rapists, oppressors, and everyone in between feel unwelcome to hurt people. Violates fundamental principles by alienating survivors. Is slippery slope to authoritarian movement, and is not transparent. Threatening to leave movement is manipulative tactic. Everyone has freedom to come and go as he or she pleases.
        • One fundamental principle is equality. Concerned that enforcement of this proposal could not be done equally. People will use biases and prejudices they don't even know they have.
        • discussion:
          • Nicole – Heard about the block to discourage rapists and other aggressors from being part of the group. What about the encouragement of families to be part of this group. Brings daughter to GA, but would never bring her to camp. What about fundamental principle to include 99%. Doesn't know what to think about two strikes, but feels that to grow movement, need a statement about being nonviolent.
          • Alyssa – Addressing point of threatening to walk: It's not about pressuring us; it's about ethics required by legal profession.
          • Danica – We're not a police force. Proposal violates principle of autonomy. Doesn't want oppression in camp. But there have been violent actions, still undefined by proposal, doesn't think it's okay for people to be excluded
          • ? – People who really care about camp safety should spend nights and days at the camp in stead of passing legislation. Don't create another 10 commandments.
          • ? – Is no way to stop or prevent violence. Question is who is being violent, to whom it's directed, and how. If intend to stop one person's violence, generally will do it violently. If we call ourselves nonviolent, meaningless. Nonviolence is not lack of violence. Pacifism is refusal to act on violence. He does not identify with term nonviolence or pacifism. Doesn't think he's the only one. Violates core principles because it is alienating to many members of the 99%. Blocking this does not make the camp any less safe for families or for anyone else. Following through with this proposal would make camp less safe because would make people less willing to act to stop violence.
        • vote:
          • time: 21:07
          • uphold block: 42; overturn block: 19
          • block stands; proposal fails
  • proposal: Tomorrow Thursday, or Friday, General Assembly moves from Westlake Park to Seattle Central Community College
    • restated: We will have all general assemblies at Seattle Central Community College, starting with this Friday's.
    • presenter: ?
    • rationale:
      • since we moved to SCCC, numbers have dwindled
      • most places, GA is held at occupation
    • discussion:
      • ? – We were discussing keeping GA and voting down at Westlake, then take things from discussion twice weekly to cover and summarize basic points discussed during GA so people who did not have chance to attend don't have excuse of not knowing what's going on. This will allow to know what's going on and to come down here to vote and talk about it.
      • ? – Friendly amendment: move weekdays to SCCC, have weekend GAs here. This would facilitate outreach in the neighborhood.
        • accepted
        • rejected (tourists here on weekend)
      • ? – Friendly amendment: Move on Friday. (Proposal was not specific.)
        • accepted
      • ? – Two groups are forming: Hang out at SCCC, work at Westlake. Should push people to be involved.
      • ? – Originally, was said we'd keep things at Westlake after move to SCCC. If we hold onto Westlake by coming here for GAs, create weird body of people who come out for GA. Don't want to be beaurocratic managers. We're at SCCC now. Let's take this change into consideration.
      • ? – Note that if meeting runs late — particularly 7:30 GAs — would violate our good neighbor agreement.
      • Albert – Earlier agreement, when we discussed move to SCCC, was to keep presence at Westlake. Today, he spoke to people who had never been to OS. They asked what's going on. If he had not been here, they wouldn't have learned this. Suggests that if we move GA, we have constant presence here for outreach.
      • Sus – Thinks we need to have meetings at SCCC nightly that are for the issues of the camp. Camp assemblies, not general assemblies. Assemblies that make policies for the camp. Assemblies that address the problems with the camp. Believes they can create good proposals to bring to a GA twice weekly. We could have GA two or three times weekly at Westlake. Issues of the camp cannot dominate everything of Occupy Seattle.
      • ? – One person said if we keep meetings here it will encourage people to come down and be involved. One issue is that people cannot or feel that they cannot come down if they have belongings set up there. They don't want to leave them for police, security, or others. Regarding the split being people hanging out vs. working. It is abundantly clear that people are working, and they are part of the movement.
      • ? – Supports moving all GAs to SCCC. Thinks risk of overriding voices as expressed is inverse of potential. We would send stronger message by occupying a bank or take the streets regardless of where we camp.
      • ? – Favors. If becomes problematic due to problems with school, could move across street to Cal Anderson Park.
      • ? – We previously passed proposal that during daytime, we'd march from SCCC to Westlake Park, have GAs here, then march back with banners and posters to camp site.
      • ? – Favors. On weekends, there's only one decision making GA: Sunday. Last Sunday, attendance was small. What about previous concern that a move of the GA, conflicting with our statement to SCCC administration, would be problematic?
      • vote:
        • time: 21:40
        • favor: 30, oppose: 5
        • block
          • fundamental principle violated: We decided through long, contentious process that we'd continue Occupy Seattle with public presence here at Westlake Park, in solidarity with Wall Street, remaining in the public eye. Only agreed to the move with keeping GAs here. Feels that the process to which we agreed has been co-opted.
          • discussion
            • Was under the impression that all votes, proposals, other things we decide on, are non-binding. Given current circumstances, doesn't see why we can't change where we have GA.
            • Have tarps and tents at SCCC; good for upcoming raining.
            • People have been free to come down here for last three days.
            • Block did not address OS's fundamental, core, principles.
          • vote:
            • time: 21:47
            • block overturned; proposal passes
  • proposal: We endorse plan in works for Occupy Black Friday
    • presenter: Joanna
    • rationale:
      • Event will happen regardless. Need endorsement of GA to make publicity, get on radio, etc., as an Occupy Seattle event
      • On day after Thanksgiving, people go shopping to make themselves happy. This is an invitation to forgo the shopping frenzy and participate in creativity and joyous things that cannot be bought or sold.
      • [note: not announced publicly, but will be state-wide Wal-Mart protest that day as well]
    • vote
      • time: 21:52
      • proposal passes unanimously
  • proposal: Before every meeting, we will read the following equality statement: FIXME: insert statement
    • rationale: hopes we're all coming here as equals; thinks this represents core of why we're here
    • presenter: Ted
    • point of process: wasn't on the Web
      • others weren't either
    • discussion:
      • ? – agrees generally, but has some problems with some of the semantics; can't rubber-stamp statement as-is
        • response: willing to remove offensive part
      • Phil – supports sentiment, but it took five minutes to read without people's microphone. Reading before GA is not right action.
      • ? – supports sentiment, but suggests boiling down to ten points or so
      • Shawn – Could take even more than 10 minutes. Potential problems with politics of one person delivering statement. Should make wording available for all to see.
        • response: don't read it with people's microphone
          • that introduces another problem
      • Brad – Be careful. We have big group with diverse opinions. Likes sentiment — not offending each other. Need to discuss when we're offending or overstepping boundaries. To make blanket statements about how we are to behave interferes with people's free speech.
    • proposal withdrawn

Emergency Announcement

  • Zach, Tactical
    • fellow Tacical just informed him that one of the fascists came back, removed shirt to expose swastika. People are watching now. Tonight's Tactical meeting cancelled.

Announcements

  • Shakina, the chai lady. Has probably served you tea if you've been anywhere at Occupy Seattle before 8am. She and husband are sufi ministers in an organization that recognizes that all religions lead to the same divine unfolding. New group is forming as ally to OS. After consulting with a few team leaders from OS, an interfaith group of clergy are beginning organizing faith community to fully support the occupy movement. Including a half-dozen religions and seek to include more. Hope to set up ongoing presence as Occcupy Chaplains. Acquiring and will soon erect tent at SCCC. Purpose is to be present. Will train clergy who wish to prepare themselves. Will offer service noon tomorrow at Plymouth Church, 6th & Union, music, poetry, more, in solidarity with strike in Oakland, violence against elsewhere, 3000 arrests, and first death at Occupy sight (Poet, dead of natural causes at Occupy Oakland). Will explore peace that moves us to civil disobedience. In addition, more events ongoing, such as church potlucks, invitations to come talk, faith groups visiting Occupy site together. Next steps: ministers starting classes. Anticipate other activities will emerge. Bring congregations into dialoge with police, move congregations financial assets out of banks, open churches as resource centers. OccupyChaplains@gmail.com and on Facebook.
  • John – check out Alisha Fisher's website http://alishafisher.com/ if interested in her project to create a costume based on all the occupations for presentation in New York
  • ? – Public Citizen is democratic group since 1970's. Having webinar about Citizen's United November 9. Hopes we can participate somehow.
  • Shawn – Encourages those watching livestream to participate in person if they can. Maybe get e-mails of working groups and send them ideas.

Adjourned 22:14

General Assembly notes 10/31

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-31 18:35
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-31

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Danica
  • Taking stack: Jack

Campers

  • Tabitha
    • At Seattle Central
      • We've established a washing station. Please bring reusable silverware, bowls, cups for your own use and reuse.
      • Kitchen has been reoriented
      • Need to help fellow occupiers understand our good neighbor statement. Please familiarize yourself with it and remind others about it.
  • Elvina
    • Fellow Red Cross canvassers were physically and emotionally harassed during the Occupy Seattle march on October 26, seemingly because people thought they were government-affiliated.
    • Red Cross started in Sweden. They are neutral. Don't harass them.
  • Potential camper
    • area is not wheelchair-accessible
    • wheelchair-bound friend set up tent on far side of camp, putting her at increased danger of police harassment
    • people feel excluded
  • ?
    • heard campers at SCCC talking about building a wheelchair ramp yesterday. Hasn't happened. Unknown if that's due to regulations or sloth.
  • ?
    • Education group has started education tent. What's that about?
      • Will set up huge tent 8pm Wednesday with books and other great stuff.
      • Need art supplies, paper, sturdy table, lamps and lanterns. Ask friends and businesses to donate. Donate.

Working group announcements

  • time: 18:48

Arts and Entertainment Working Group

  • ?
    • drafting mission statement
    • meet in front of See's Candies 3pm Sunday
  • Eric
    • meeting 4pm at a coffee shop nearby

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • Tabitha
    • working on getting more straw for SCCC grounds
    • Businesses are getting rid of straw now. Ask if you can have it.
    • Garbage/recycling/compost is sorted nightly at 9pm. Please read the signs and put things in the appropriate receptacle.
    • As of tomorrow, we'll have garbage and recycling service. Still working on compost.
    • Working on worm composting bins this week. Hopefully have workshop later at SCCC.

Sanitation Committee

  • Jackson
    • got two new porta-potties today
    • always need more volunteers

Labor Caucus

  • Steve
    • meeting 6pm Wednesday, Labor Temple, 2800 1st Ave,
      • If in union, would like to be, or know someone who is, please come.

Tactical Working Group

  • Maria
    • Nazis are not welcome
    • reorganizing Peace and Safety, Tactical, and other groups to prevent
      • meeting today 9pm at SCCC to devise proposal to bring to GA
    • group will be securing our safety at SCCC perimeter until we find model of peace and safety
    • reaching out to churches and homeless shelter to use their space
    • SCCC teachers union will soon issue statement that if SCCC president kicks us out, they will strike.

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Rhianon
    • Forrest from ICT leaving soon to attend national/international conference call of occupiers worldwide
    • announcing formation of national/international workgroup
    • meeting tomorrow morning 11am at Seattle Coffee Works at Pike Place Market
  • Danica
    • need more people

Fundraising Working Group

  • Fred
    • Porta-potties were paid for personally by SCCC teachers union president
      • We don't know how long she or the union will keep on paying
      • Emptying them is expensive
    • We're spending lots of money, but people are not taking fundraising seriously
    • If you're in a meeting where plans are being made and nobody suggests talking to Fred about fundraising, bring it up
    • This Saturday morning, needs someone who lives near Lake Forest Park to attend weekly peace vigil there
      • Need to sell signs to those people, but Fred cannot be there

Media Working Group

  • Aliana
    • Now has ability to update events on website
    • If you have event for the calendar, email occupyseattle.media@gmail.com
      • Is this instead of e-mailing ICT?
        • We both have ability to update calendar.

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Lifeguard
    • Saturday night, at about midnight, police came through campsite for second time, and there was no problem. Shortly after, was approached by camper he knows and trusts, and received a disturbing report about an outside individual in his tent doing disgusting things and rifling possessions of the tent owner. When stranger was searched, was found to have several bags of white powder. When camper went to report the problem, got into argument with someone known as "Top Hat". When Lifeguard tried to report to rest of Peace and Safety, was intercepted by Top Hat. Top Hat was unreasonable and argumentative. Ended conversation to finish P&S business.
    • While talking to other members of P&S, two men entered camp. One man had Seig Heil tattoos on his face. These were not people wearing skinhead costumes. They were attacked violently by occupiers. Did not see or hear that skinheads attacked us. Members of P&S and others who joined to peacefully expel skinheads were physically attacked by other occupiers. Was very concerned that things could get out of control, that people could be gravely injured or killed — no exaggeration.
    • After expelling the skinheads, one of whom will have a scar for the rest of his life to remember this adventure by, returned to camp to find several occupiers fighting each other. As that wound down during an awesome, lengthy, peaceful, discussion, Top Hat continued to cause problems. In his view, Top Hat provoked many problems and refused to leave when asked to leave nicely more than three times.
    • Finally, at about 5am, when a very drunk individual, not part of our movement threatened to stab someone from our movement, Peace and Safety and several others gently confronted him. He did not like that, and he left.
    • Regrets that he is withdrawing from Occupy Seattle until there is clear statement on our policy on violence.
  • David, new Peace and Safety member
    • Has been talking to other people at P&S. Seems they need to do some restructuring. Plans to make that happen.
    • P&S should be trained on de-escalation techniques.

Legal Working Group

  • Corey
    • From Morale Working Group: Akila wants everyone to know they're meeting after GA in front of Sephora
    • Met as team this weekend, want to know who others feel about Legal having clear and open workgroup meetings.
    • Will make proposal announcement regarding violence issue.

?

  • Mia
    • Planning multicultural potluck picnic on November 20, Sunday before Thanksgiving.
      • Anyone who wants to help plan, please join next two Sundays 3pm at Westlake Park.

Anti-fascist Working Group

  • Zander
    • fascist, in this context, includes Nazis, homophobic fundamentalism, sexism, and general oppression
    • Role will be:
      • set watch for perimeter of encampment
      • force fascists out with minimum force necessary for conflict de-escalation. Not harm on camp, but to expel them with our safety and self-defense in mind
      • alert encampment of police presence and/or approach
      • remind campers of non-engagement policy with SPD
      • schedule training by trained people who are trained in martial arts and conflict deescalation so this is not a specialized skill
    • WG will not:
      • mediate conflicts between campers.
      • enforce on campers
      • police us
      • fetishize violence
      • want violence

Morale Working Group

  • Akila
    • have lots of exciting projects to implement, but need more people

Announcements

  • ? – City Hall permit is expiring tomorrow
    • If you're worried about this, should talk to Patricia
  • Aliana – Chase CEO Jamie Dimon will be speaking this Wednesday evening at Sheraton
  • ? – Bank Transfer Day is this Saturday
  • ? – Needs 30-40 people who want to sign up with credit unions to join our march. Rally at 11am, speakers until march at noon.
  • ? – Several people will go dressed as bankers to close accounts
  • ? – Two actions Wednesday. First is 2pm, march starting at SCCC, to action at major bank. Then march will leave Westlake Park at 6pm. Please arrive at 4-5pm to make signs and other preparations.
  • ? – UW students walking out Wednesday 12pm for rally at Red Square, then marching to SCCC to join bank march.
  • ? – students in Olympia are planning November 28 action targeting budget cuts
  • livestreamer – cable TV show "Our Forum" will be at Westlake Park tomorrow 1pm
    • Aliana: This is Christian-based media group. Reached out to Media group about intention to be here. Believes they are nice people.
    • clarification: His last name is Christian. The channel itself is not Christian.

Announcements of Future Proposals

  • Corey – proposal regarding violence toward members and non-members
  • ? from Get Money Out of Politics Working Group – Take people to Olympia on November 28 to put pressure on special legislative session to tax the wealthy instead of shutting down schools and ending basic health care
  • Elvina – Stop anti-winkles while people are speaking.
  • facilitation note: If you have proposal to announce, please bring it to P&F at 6pm. IF you cannot be there at 6, get in at least a day before.
  • ? – He along with other students will bring proposal about accessibility and demands centering on people with disabilities and how they are affected by capitalism.

Discussion

  • ? – Is there a process for disagreeing with a WG without joining it?
    • At some places, GA has nothing to say about what WGs do unless it affects or speaks for the whole. Hopefully if WGs have mission statements, can get called out if wandering from mission statement or if it affects the whole. With things that obviously affect the whole, good for us to have clear mandate XXX.
    • In general, working groups are people doing stuff, so generally, answer is no.
  • ? – The block has been a point of contention. It's hard to define the fundamental principles of why we're here. Thinks block should happen when acts of civil disobedience are at issue. CD fails when there's not enough support. Link this to the block somehow.
  • ? – Would be good to have some way to judge block not on its merit. People abuse the block just because they don't like how the vote turned out. Please quit whining and have self-discipline to stop misusing blocks.
  • ? – Despite the degree to which people dislike overcoming 4/5 supermajority, this is good.
  • ? – 4/5 block ends up XXX principle of majority rule. The supermajority rule in WA State legislature is the way Republicans keep us from taxing the wealthy.
  • ? – Every time there's a block, it's just because someone is upset about vote. Process has been handle improperly. When block happens, supermajority is framed as upholding proposal, but should be focused on the block.
  • ? – People who have said that block is to strengthen voice of minority against majority are correct. Sometimes the majority can trample a minority. However, most successful and constructive blocks he's seen have led to refinement of proposals so they address and encompass the voice of the minority whose voice was not heard in the proposal formation. Would like to hear suggestions for better facilitating that. For example, first time good neighbor statement was proposed, was blocked. Long conversation resulted in proposal that even the proposer preferred. Doesn't always work that way.
  • Andrew – Is not here every day. His wife is not here every day. Acknowledges that he's not as familiar with the block process we're dealing with on day-to-day basis. However, that said, it seems as if part of the problem may be a lack of unity about why we're here.
  • Carol – When we are discussing proposal, some of us believe we have very strong reasons to oppose proposal as it stands. Those who feel that way can say so when they get to speak ("I have a very strong feeling against this proposal.") Need not block, just get in line and attempt to persuade like everyone else. Can have good discussion like we did with good neighbor statement. Changed that by raising hands and making strong suggestions. Likes to block Bank of America, not her community.
  • Shawn – We've done two different things with blocks. First, voted to either uphold or overturn the block. Then switched to this supermarjority thing. First approach made it clear that we're considering different principles than the proposal itself. This seemed non-intuitive and confused people. So we switched to the supermajority approach, but now we're still talking about the proposal instead of the deeper principles.
  • Corey – When he blocked proposal to move to SCCC, had two reasons: 1) could be argument that it violated our basic principles, but wasn't very committed to this. 2) Felt decision to move camps should have required supermajority. He abstained from voting.
  • ? – Maybe instead of asking if we uphold the block, ask if there's a need for more discussion.
  • ? – Numbers here are limited. A vote can go one way or another based on who is here tonight. Livestream should not just be watching. Need to find a way for them to participate.
  • ? – We're focusing on the symptoms instead of the disease. Let's address who proposals come to the table. By the time one comes to the table, should already have supermajority.
  • ? – How we determine whether to support block should be flexible. Constraints of beaurocracy are what got us here in the first place. For example, Corey's SCCC move block was admittedly faulty. The block of good neighbor policy kind of worked out.
  • ? – When we're going back and forth about proposals and how they relate to our fundamental principles, particularly certain principles, should cite the principle at issue.
  • ? – Partially in response to previous comment and also in response to broader block issue: There is no formal set of principles. Rather, lots of people are angry because the world is being XXX and we're part of that. Part of the block issue is that we're humans, and it's sloppy. Those who have deep concerns about the block should go back to GA weeks ago XXX
  • Carol – Some people think of their vote being yes if they agree 100%. Alternative system she learned many years ago is to vote yes if you agree at least 60-70%. Expected 9/10 vote, allowing to go with proposal even if not 100% in everyone's heart.
  • ? – Strongly believes that we should discuss the proposals when they are announced [rather than day of vote]. This would assure that everyone who spoke got to provide their input, and working group could refine proposal before bringing to vote.
  • Hudson – Intrigued by Carol's idea. Dislikes win/lose angry votes where people come in determined to out-argue and out-mass the opposition. Everyone, even people who win, leave hurt and angry. What Carol is talking about with other ideas about consensus, intriguing but scary. Might lead to new way of working together instead of against each other.
  • Mark – In a winner-take-all system, one side is forgotten. It's a system of oppression. Whitman called it the tyranny of majority. U.S. Constitution protects against this. Consensus is about the Espirit de Corp. No one wants to be shut out or dismissed. Consensus making should allow everyone to have a voice and be heard. If people think they're being heard, will go along with what the majority think in order to keep solidarity. So if in consensus, we can allow people to speak their mind even if the group decides to do something different, that's good. In past consensus-making he's done: if you block, have chance to explain why. If really feel like it violates your core personal values, have right not to participate and other people should respect that. We can continue somehow in some form so people don't feel shut out.
  • Fred – All over the world, traditional indigenous cultures did not have concept of human rights. Not because they liked oppression; just didn't need those rights. Western culture brought this with tribes. Everyone belonged to a tribe and new his place. New they and tribe would take care of each other. In this group, have some people doing lots of work and some not doing any at all. Because we cling to rights, we say first thing you get when you come here is rights. Never addressed responsibilities. Thinks there is no such thing as a right without a responsibility.
    • Our current process is basically simple majority vote. People have insisted that anything else is anti-democratic. Tonight, hasn't heard a word in favor of simple majority. Wonders if anyone would miss it if we stopped using it. Alternatives to simple majority is to require supermajority to pass (80, 90, 100%). Consensus is another option: Keep at it until there's consensus. We're using simple majority by default.
  • ? – Super majority is nice, but we need to move forward even when we disagree. What would stop banks or mayor from sending one person down here to veto things we want to do since we're based on absolute consensus. Like if one person with heart in right place but stubborn holds things up. Simple majority not best, but thinks block should allow someone to make case case passionately and force re-vote, but not require supermajority.
  • Tabitha – This conversation is important to our evolution. Need to decolonize our minds. Likes idea of consensus mixed with percentages within your own personal being. Not about agreement, but if something is good for everyone. Sometimes it takes lots of time to hear everyone's concern, but each is valid and helps us make better policy.
  • ? – Because of infiltration, pure consensus is dangerous. Favors some form of supermajority after attempting to reach consensus. 51 percent allows ten people who feel really strongly but couldn't be there to vote to miss out, resulting in large margin of error.
  • ? – Conversation is focused on supermajority. Consensus is unrealistic if we define it as 100 percent. If you have a proposal, better be clear that most people agree with it. Should talk to people and have large support before vote. People should know what they're voting on. Suggests supermajority (80%?) for all votes. Suggests requiring quorum (50-100 people).
  • ? – Feels as if we're all talking around a much bigger problem, which probably lies with lack of general idea of core principles. Block makes sense if there's agreement on core principles. Maybe that's the conversation we should have.
  • ? – Thinks it would be better if we got everyone from occupation to be at general assembly, producing better vote. Has mixed feelings about people occupying Westlake Park, City Hall Plaza, SCCC.
  • Shawn – Can turn these things upside down so they'll make more sense. GA could be to bring people in. Use lack of participation as way to diagnose that problem. Cannot decide on fundamental principles because we XXX. When argument was made that legality was core principle, GA didn't buy it. Later, when someone proposed that reclaiming public space was core principle, was popular.
  • ? – Agrees that we need more people on decision-making days. Regarding having support before bringing to GA: This takes away from point of GA, which is discussion. This is why we separated voting from non-voting days. People on livestream should be here on voting days, being physical part of this movement. One of the fundamentals of the movement is that this (watching on Internet) does not constitute personal interaction.
  • ? – Respects the people who stay overnight and occupy. When she's at home in bed, feels people who occupy should have their voices heard. Also thinks people who live far away, are unhealthy, don't speak English well, somehow need to be given the proper way to participate. Is a bit insensitive to say everyone can be here.
  • ? – Regarding quorum requirement: Does that mean people voting or people here? People could withdraw votes to disrupt process. Regarding laying out clear agenda about why we're here: Feels there is tactical advantage to refrain from doing so. Similarly, should not have list of demands. If there's clear identification of why we're here, we'd lose what's so special about being here. Wants more than he can put in a list. Doing so would be too narrow, exclude people, and allow others to squash us.
  • Fred – Other speaker used word "should" a lot. How to get from "should" to "do" was not addressed. Other person wants people to do lots of work. He's been working on fundraising since early in the morning. If he has to run around gaining support, will allow less time for collecting money for pumping toilets.
  • ? – Before doing something, asks GA for temperature check. If Fred has proposals but no time to prepare them, ask for help. He offers it to Fred and others.
  • Mark – Is cold. We need to deal with this issue. Would love to be inside warm conference room where lots of people could join without weather exposure. Really need indoor facility.
  • Carol – City Hall has capacity of 285 on first floor.
  • ? – Regarding list of demands or principles, finds that they can be both strength and weakness. We're all here because things are messed up. Our clear message is that we're pissed off, the world is not working, and we're trying to change it. Without a clear list of things that need change, and without concrete solutions in hand, how can we expect anything to have. It's well and good to be down here yelling — it's exciting — but without something to direct that yelling toward, with an end-game and a few things we want to change, where will we go?
  • ? – Regarding decision-making, has been in meetings where 15 people discuss whether to authorize 15 dollar purchase. Likely waste of energy. It's unclear what decisions should be made in our GAs. $25 could be controversial to us if, for instance, someone spent it at a non-union shop. Grappling with what should be discussed heavily [in GA] and what could be done in smaller groups.
  • Elvina – Has large house near SCCC. Could use it when it's very cold.
  • ? – Does not have large house or job, but has library card and knows many librarians.
  • Tabitha – Shouldn't be hasty about why we're here or to make statements about such. What we're doing is important and valid. This is out of the box, and it's the first time for many people to be outside the box. This is radical.

Announcements

  • time: 20:34
  • Corey, Legal – Assembling corporate blacklist so we can suggest what businesses people should avoid.
    • suggests coming to Labor Caucus Wednesday 6pm Labor Temple. These people do that all the time and would have good input.
  • Elvina – Due to rising and falling tensions, is starting listening/group-therapy work group. If you like to bitch and gripe and complain but haven't been listened to, get in touch. Also, will have discussion with anti-fascist movement with concerns she has about specific people.
  • ? – Likes to keep things simple, so is buying stickers, getting them out, and
    • had 25,000 made by union print shop for $800 (3 cents apiece). Gave half of them to someone. Doesn't know where they are. Maybe distributed, maybe in car trunk. Kept half. Raised $700, has 4000 stickers left. Got over $200 during half-day with one role of stickers that cost $35. Many go for free. Wants people to have stickers, but since cost has not been authorized, is reluctant to give them away. Please let everyone know that we give these away, but please get money from people who have it and want to give it. She's gotten $20 for five stickers, given away 100 for free.
  • Mark – Lives near where John T. Williams was killed. No flowers there. Put a sticker there, and it's still there. Has idea about calling Karen Strickland (president of Seattle American Federation of Teachers, who were there all night). Couldn't college give them key to conference room so we can have GA there? He'll contact Logistics about that. They seem to be adamant about supporting us. Asked them, "You don't think they'd gas teachers do you?" Answer: "We're willing to find out."
  • Shawn – One of the proposals for tomorrow is to move GA to SCCC. Please be here for that vote.

Adjourned 20:43

General Assembly notes 10/30

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-30 18:40
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-30

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Hudson and Christina
  • Agenda: Michael
  • Taking stack: Arlin

Campers

  • facilitators suggest beginning with whole-group discussion of last night's turmoil at Seattle Central
  • Matt
    • Josh noticed two neo-Nazis come up to the camp, ask about local bars, and ask if they could hang out at camp
    • one had Sieg Heil tattoo
    • Josh told them where bars are and that they could not hang out
    • got word out about their visit
    • people with security and anti-fascism expertise, including several anarchists who have recently researched how to deal with Nazis
    • Nazis returned, were identified
      • started doing hail-Hitler salutes
    • guy in a top hat allegedly
    • saw campers attempt to escort them off while chanting "Nazis out"
    • saw members of Peace and Safety — Circus and Cameron — start to lay hands on those who were attempting to escort Nazis out
    • others began to lay hands on them and remind them to remain non-violent
    • Nazis eventually pushed out by the crowd
    • In his opinion, all of this could have been resolved easily if those escorting them out had been left alone
      • peace and safety overstepped their mandate, used violence against other campers
      • circus admitted that he was drunk while in his P&S role
      • very emotional speak-out afterward
      • some said that Nazis target us due to ethnic diversity, revolutionary status
  • ?
    • More info about what he saw, none of which contradicts what Matt said
    • Man in top hat intervened by saying, "They have a right to be here," and "They are part of the 99 percent."
      • He was told that they were definitely Nazis and that he should step out of the way
        • he did not comply, caused lots of trouble
        • he heavily misrepresented what happened
    • His friend, visiting Occupy Seattle last night with news from Oakland
      • she was involved in confronting Nazis
      • she was violently attacked by about five people, tackled to ground
        • doesn't know who did this or if they're members of P&S
        • thinks these people should not be part of OS longer
        • demented if use violence to defend fascists and call yourself a pacifist
    • In ensuing discussion, were many OS people who insisted on defending the rights of the Nazis.
      • This is despicable.
    • Has heard, did not witness, that the Nazis were attacked, and this happened at the boundary of the camp, not within it.
    • There was an individual who called the police on anti-fascists in the camp, in direct violation of the agreement of this GA
      • That was despicable, this person has no place in OS
  • Sharla
    • both Cameron and Circus have acknowledged their actions were inappropriate
      • have stepped down from that role, no longer part of P&S
      • were intoxicated
        • this was violation of
  • ?
    • Woman confronted Nazis. Guy called her a bitch for trying to confront them, tried to hit her.
      • When confronted later, said Nazis have social liberties, too.
      • denied trying to hit her
      • said should not have called her a bitch, though she was being one
      • Thinks he should be asked to leave.
  • ?
    • from long experience in this kind of activity, going back to 1960s, seems to him that one danger to us is agents provocateur
      • people trying to destroy this movement
      • may work for police or corporate interests; hard to tell the difference
      • don't let them provoke you
  • Maria
    • What she saw was horrific.
    • To see violence against each other and a guy feeling entitled to hit a woman is intolerable
    • Provocateurs will come back. They'll know what we're talking about. Might be here now.
    • Need to figure out who we can trust to be on peace and safety.
      • trust them for accountability
      • doesn't feel safe with people who were on Peace and Safety
  • Matt
    • Told that person who called police was Giovanni
      • response: Was right behind Giovanni, and a cop car parked in the turning lane, because he saw them walking fast northbound,
      • stopped, explained to cop what was happening
      • in two minutes, by time they reached Denny and Broadway, were 5-10 squad cars, questioned Giovanni and two people with them
    • We voted not to speak to the cops. Giovanni's actions violated our principles
      • you may not agree with them, but they were voted on democratically
  • ?
    • Shouldn't jump to conclusion that there are agents provocateurs
    • snitch in our midst is big deal, don't use this phrase lightly
    • these were Nazis
  • ?
    • Was there last night. Watched everything that happened very closely
    • was injured slightly by member of peace and safety when he inserted himself in attempts to force out Nazis
    • can't do anything about agents provocateur, but should work on how we treat each other
  • ?
    • In regard to provocateurs
    • facilitators are not peace and safety, and escalated the situation
  • ?
    • Believes that we need to have a mentality of tolerance.
    • People are human and make mistakes
    • Part of this may have been failing of the entire group to properly inculcate people into the movement and understand how they should behave
    • If people recognize mistake, deserve retribution
    • White supremacy, harassment, etc., have not place in the movement
      • cannot defend people who behave that way
  • ?
    • re: talking to cops: Policy does not apply when people are in physical danger
    • calling cops on people smoking weed in tents is different than approaching a brawl and letting the police know what's going on
    • was there, next to them, when brawl broke out
    • broke out when people started yelling obscenities at the Nazis, challenging them, getting in their faces
    • need better peace and safety
    • broke into mob in 30 seconds because people saw potentially-dangerous people and started acting violent toward them
    • doesn't like Nazis, doesn't think he should yell at them at 2am
    • If he sees people fighting with Nazis, he will tell the cops
    • Is concerned with physical safety of his friends and family* ?
      • re: talking to cops: Policy does not apply when people are in physical danger
      • calling cops on people smoking weed in tents is different than approaching a brawl and letting the police know what's going on
      • was there, next to them, when brawl broke out
      • broke out when people started yelling obscenities at the Nazis, challenging them, getting in their faces
      • need better peace and safety
      • broke into mob in 30 seconds because people saw potentially-dangerous people and started acting violent toward them
      • doesn't like Nazis, doesn't think he should yell at them at 2am
      • If he sees people fighting with Nazis, he will tell the cops
        • Is concerned with physical safety of his friends and family
  • ?
    • one big challenge with peace and safety is GA has never approved mechanism for dealing with elements trying to cause trouble
    • this led to dissolving of common sense last night
    • suggests GA, Tactical, Peace and Safety get together and make joint proposal about how to deal with conflicting elements that turn violent
  • ?
    • person is innocent until proved guilty
      • if proved guilty, then penalty is enforced
      • in this case, people should not be excluded permanently from the site
        • should be able to explain what they did
    • people can make mistakes
      • if they are sorry for their mistakes and we are convinced that they will not repeat the mistakes, they should be allowed to rejoin us
  • ?
    • When she heard commotion, turned and saw people swinging at the neo-Nazis
    • Thinks it's very important that above all else we protect the movement.
    • Understands about not calling police, but if situation can escalate, must protect the movement and not disrespect that which we're trying to accomplish
  • ?
    • Was there. Did not run toward commotion.
    • Some people here got caught up in the commotion.
    • Problem is that SCCC has no alcohol, no drugs policy
    • Group has failed to pass good neighbor policy. Just have statement. It's not enforceable.
    • We've been so busy talking about whether to talk to police have failed to pass good neighbor policy.
    • Suggests that instead of getting emotions worked up about what was observed, we do what was needed to do before we moved to SCCC: pass good neighbor policy
    • tonight 9:30 is meeting tonight with faculty to welcome us
      • opportunity to take time to think about good neighbor policy
  • Shawn
    • Our unskilled facilitation style helped escalate an already-disastrous situation
      • yelling over people who were yelling increased panic
    • Many of the anti-fascist activists have much experience in de-escalation tactics and continuum of force (containing violence with minimum of force)
    • suggests peace and safety work in training with anti-fascist activists
  • ? – Giovanni went to police, singled him out. Because of Giovanni, he and another were detained, illegally searched, threatened with arrest, and banned from Capitol Hill for the night
  • facilitator: temperature check: continue discussion?
    • yes
  • ? – is misunderstanding about 99 percent vs. 1 percent
    • those of us in the movement serve the 99 percent
    • cannot include some people, such as those who truly cannot take part due to mental disability ? Chris – This may have happened at other occupations in the country. If not, it may.
    • Should take our lessons and share them with others, reach out to find if others have dealt with these issues
    • Suggests we put together something like open letter to the movement on defending our space from neo-Nazis and other assholes
  • ? – Many campers not here. Suggests moving GA to the occupation.
    • Has happened elsewhere. These people are trying to insert themselves because the left is so inclusive.
  • ? – When it comes to white supremacists like neo-Nazis, did a good thing by pushing them out. Have been other places, like Wall Street, but we were first to push them out.
    • calling police in situation when we're removing Nazis is not acceptable
    • exception to rule was if you yourself are in imminent danger
  • ? – Requests clarity on proposal passed by GA on communicating with the police.
  • ? – Believes that in all respects, we should be respectful and not resort to swearing at people or being disrespectful at any point.
  • ? – How many people have members of immediate and extended family who died fighting actual Nazis
    • Uncle saw Gestapo murder his father because they were part of German underground in Italy
    • does not thing cooperating with police is a good idea
    • was right next to Nazis when people starting yelling, cursing, fighting
      • was a mess
      • need to find a better way to deal with this
    • finding the person to call police in a witch hunt is not the way to go
    • we're scared, upset, and had violence in moment of triumph
    • remember that even in tense moments, cohesion and understanding among us is important
  • ? – Anti-fascist Working Group will meet tonight at 10pm by SCCC statue
    • Due to police role in upholding white supremacy, we're not interested in talking to police, who trust police, who think they're workers, too
  • Sharla
    • In response to last night's events, have two meetings set up
      • training in de-escalation
      • Friday 4pm SCCC
      • Sunday 1pm SCCC
    • We all need to de-escalate. That didn't happen last night.

Working group announcements

  • time: 19:50

November 2 Working Group

  • Chris
    • organizing two big activities Wednesday:
      • March on major bank where there will be an action that will start at 2pm at Seattle Central
      • Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan Chase, will be speaking at Sheraton. Will march, picket. Will be awesome.
        • 6pm from Westlake Park. Get here early to help make signs.
      • Seattle Central speak-out at 1pm, leading in to the march on major bank

Labor Caucus

  • Dan
    • Meeting Wednesday 6pm, will try to move to 7pm to accommodate Dimon action

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach
    • Porta-potties at SCCC are full
      • locked, because it costs $280 for Sunday cleaning, only $80 tomorrow
    • seeking to start new group to be better prepared for situation like last night's
    • they organize inter-working group meetings
    • meet 5pm at Convention Center on first floor

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • Ed
    • compiling document about how we have these conversations
    • need more input
    • some people bothered that we vote, have blocks, don't vote, use consensus, etc.
    • propose that opening topic for Monday's GA is now to decide things: voting, consensus, ?

Media Working Group

  • ?
    • drafting open letter to SCCC President
    • will meet tomorrow

Get Money out of Politics Working Group

  • ?
    • first meeting was today
    • meet 3pm Sundays near See's Candy

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Norm
    • Today, arranged two trainings for de-escalation
      • Tuesday afternoon
      • Sunday afternoon
      • see calendar for details

Action Announcements

  • time: 19:59
  • Mia – multicultural potluck picnic Sunday November 20

Future Proposal Announcements

  • ? – Will propose move GA to SCCC as soon as possible
    • rationale: numbers dwindling
  • ? – Will propose policy similar to no police policy, Occupy Seattle remain fascist-free zone
  • ? – Will propose we start every meeting with abbreviated equality statement (shortened version of our accountability statement)
  • ? – Will propose that proposals be published on the website before brought to GA
    • that's underway; ICT is to put prominent link on site to page with upcoming proposals
  • ? – Will propose that Occupy Seattle respect a diversity of tactics, a diversity of ways in which people utilize to keep themselves safe, including right to self defense

Proposals

  • facilitator: Small GA attendance. Whether to vote will be up to GA and proposer.
  • Mark:
    • concerned that there is small group of people, no livestream. Suspects that proposal will not be controversial. Wants it to be symbolic act of unity and solidarity. Concerned that there is insufficient attendance.
    • proposal: Change name of this park in our literature and when we refer to it with media, as John T. Williams Park
    • rationale: other parks around the nation have been renamed after victims of police violence
    • temperature check: appropriate to vote on this now?
      • no
    • proposal tabled at proposer's request

Announcements

  • facilitators: we'll talk about possible move of GA after tonight's GA
  • Tabitha – Missed discussion of last night's events. She was awakened. Was slender woman wearing gray who threw bottle at someone. Hit Tabitha's eye. Hit someone else. Had never seen this woman before. Nothing happened to her. Many witnesses. Doesn't know where she is.
  • Mark – Part of the difficulty with getting enough people to vote is that the past two voting GA's have been dominated by emergencies. Hopes our next GAs will focus on moving forward. Tired of being distracted by police, white supremacists, etc. Went out with friends last night. Bars in Pike-Pine were all spilling out drunk people. Returned to camp and found peace. After incident, was hysteria, emotional outbursts, inability to calm down. Need to stay centered.
  • ? – Cannot stay for post-GA discussions. Main reason for low attendance may be that it's not at the occupation. Observes that the process can be cumbersome for new people. Doesn't know all the gestures. Understands need. Sometimes new people come and want to speak, find it difficult to speak.
  • Shawn
    • Regarding provocateurs: usually counterproductive to snitch-jacket someone. However, it's always effective to point out and make transparent disruptive behavior. As we get strong calling-out of behavior, doesn't matter why someone is doing it.
    • has been very hard to work through many proposals and differences related to privilege. We should be proud, because these are issues that have already splinted many — maybe majority — of occupations in the nation. Deepest social issues in our nation, and we're doing great job of finding common ground across them.
  • Christina – May become victims of our process if we can't get enough people to vote on moving GA.
  • ? – Ask not what your occupation can do for you, ask what you can do for your occupation. People up there should be down here. Feels bad for them. Need to get together and get strong. Too many people take passive role in society. Need to change that, talk to people. Ask people why they're not here, let them know we needed them.
  • Ed – Tuesday night, we will vote on where GA will be. People who care should be here if they can.
  • ? – Participation in this movement is not necessarily being at the GA but sleeping at Westlake or SCCC. That's what the real action is. We're occupying Seattle.
  • ? – Regarding people not coming down from SCCC: Many of them are concerned that our encampment will be lost if we don't have enough people up there.
  • ? – Someone said, "If someone wants to vote and be part, should come to GA." Should make a push to get them here. He'll be at them. Thinks they're important. Should make attempt to get everyone from SCCC here for that vote.
  • ? – Agrees that the occupation is crucial. GA needs to beware that the occupation is occurring. At Tuesday's vote here at Westlake, regardless of numbers, need to take binding vote on whether to move GA to SCCC. We are an occupation, not just another protest. What makes us strong, different, hopeful, revolutionary, is the occupation.
  • Tabitha – Can talk about this all day, but we're the minority. Everybody is up there. Kitchen is the heart of this movement. We're not near it. People in the kitchen working tirelessly.
  • ? – The GA does not speak for movement. It speaks for those who want it to speak for them. Does not speak for him and lots of people who feel similarly.
  • ? – It's not just the kitchen at SCCC, but food, and we meet at dinner time. Need to think about people's stomachs and health.
  • Mark
    • Many people are paying attention to what happens here but are not represented. Many may not think we speak for them, but are interested in what we do, so let's remember that even if there are only five people at GA, those people need to reach out and make it bigger.
    • When we're here for whatever reason, would be good to have banners by road. Are asking now if we left Westlake because they want to drive by and support.
    • When leaves, would like to leave with others.
  • Ed
    • Can we convene some kind of meeting at SCCC to ask opinion of those up there? Do they want GA down here?
    • Does anyone want to continue holding GAs here?
    • Might be possible to develop consensus if everyone wants to move before Tuesday. If we ask everyone up there and down here, and majority want to do it, we don't have to shackle ourselves by chains of our process.
  • Christina – If we announce tomorrow that we're holding GA at SCCC? Is that enough?
  • ? – When we move up, after breaking, can we march carrying those pumpkins, saying Occupy Seattle?
  • Shawn – Was one of the people advising that we have this meeting and next Tuesday's in this cold, miserable place. If you have friends at City Hall, might want to let them know about this. Advised because several people there would be very concerned if GA moved without their say. But they're not here.
  • ? – Doesn't see anyone here who is connected with SCCC. When we talked about the move, we said we'd continue having GA here. Should check in to find out if it would look bad to SCCC administration after such short period of time.
  • ? – Said earlier that we could just move it up there. Thinks that if we decide to move it up there, decision should be made here.
  • Christina – Wonders if we could pause this GA, go up to SCCC, engage people tonight.

Adjourned 20:36

General Assembly notes 10/29

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-29 18:40
  • Location: Westlake Park, under awning, in Bank of America doorway
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-29

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Jacob
  • Taking stack: Carol
  • Time keeper: Hudson
  • Agenda: Michael

Campers

  • none

Working group announcements

  • none

Action announcements

  • speak-out at Seattle Central happening now
    • it's on the livestream
    • it's awesome
  • November 5 is Bank Transfer Day
    • email OSDivestment@gmail.com for more information

Proposal announcements

  • Neal will bring proposal related to Occupy Black Friday day of action

Proposals

  • none on Saturdays

Emergency proposal

  • proposal: acquire brains
    • restated: give Process and Facilitation our brains to eat
    • presenter: Hudson
    • source: Process and Facilitation
    • rationale: have risen from the dead
    • vote
      • time: 18:48
      • 4 for, 5 against. Proposal fails

Announcements

  • Phil – Night of 1000 Jack-O-Lanterns tomorrow
    • carve pumpkins 2pm at Westlake
    • light them around 6
    • we're getting 100 pumpkins from some farm out near Snoqualmie right now

Adjourned 18:51

General Assembly notes 10/27

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-27 19:45
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-27

Facilitation Team

  • Process mover: Jack
  • Taking stack: Lady Gaga, Carol
  • Agenda: Patricia
  • Time keeper: Joshua
  • Orientation: Ramone

Campers

  • ? – Has been here seven nights. Wants us to remember that the homeless are here, live in this park, are part of this park. Please respect the trees, the fountain, the ground, the homeless.
  • ? – Was here first 16 days and 16 nights. We have problems and worries. Keep morale up by playing soccer, playing chess, dancing.
  • ? – It's getting cold at night. There are a few hard-core campers who could use warmer sleeping bags and waterproof gear.
  • ? – Is a Metro bus driver and a labor activist. The postal workers are under attack. Obama's jobs bill will eliminate 120,000 postal jobs. Check with her group, Organized Workers for Labor Solidarity, for more information.

Working group announcements

  • time: 19:58

Outreach Working Group

  • Bill and Andy
    • Spent the day on Capitol Hill visiting local businesses, gauging support, listening to concerns
      • Got almost 20 signatures in support of Occupy Seattle
      • Spoke with head of Capitol Hill Chamber of Commerce
      • Concerns of businesses:
        • Sunday Broadway Farmers Market
          • They set up at 7:00 a.m.
          • These are our friends. If they ask you to move something, please do it.
          • Let's have some people there to help setup and unload trucks.
        • Also Sunday, will be kids activity near our occupation. Please be respectful.
        • Art installation — little monsters — right near our camp. Please be very, very, careful with them. Artists are trusting us to protect them.
      • Halloween weekend, may be antagonistic drunk people on Capitol Hill. Please try to stay out of it.
      • Be conscious of noise.
    • CNN approached them at WG meeting today. Reporter will be here Saturday. Look for the giant camera.
  • Matt
    • Media are making big deal about potential conflict with Broadway Sunday Farmers Market
    • They'll be on paved area of plaza from 7am until 4pm and don't use grassy area
      • Suggests just putting tents on grass
    • Tea's biggest concern is parking for offload at 7am
      • they'll have no-parking signs
      • please tell people not to park in front of college
    • would be good gesture to help them unload trucks

Demands Working Group

  • Justin and Peter
    • will bring proposal tomorrow
      • Call on City of Seattle to remove funds from banks that received bailout and move them to state and local banks.
    • meeting Friday 4pm in front of See's Candy, or alternatively, 3rd floor of Westlake Mall

Morale Working Group

  • Akila
    • new project: Raffle for Righteousness
      • will reward people weekly
      • to nominate people, write name on paper, put it in the big pumpkin tomorrow before GA is over
      • must be present to win

Legal Working Group

  • Gabriel
    • Everything is good, generally.
    • Last night, Kawan Baxter was arrested for sitting in the park.
      • Act had him dragged to police and booked.
      • However, City Prosecutor chose not to press charges.
      • No guarantees for any of you if you are arrested.

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach
    • Saturday events
      • 3pm – Civil disobedience training
      • 5pm – March to Seattle Central Community College
    • have worked out ideas for events on the ground as various situations arise
    • meet daily, 3pm at Westlake food court, sometimes 9pm at Seattle's Best Coffee

Bank Transfer Day Temporary Working Group

  • Zach
    • will have proposal later tonight
    • if you're interested, email OSDivestment@gmail.com
    • Meet daily 3:30, first floor of Convention Center

Medical Working Group

  • Robin
    • smoking, using incense, or personal fragrance
      • your choice
      • limits the ability of other people to participate in general assembly
    • will be two teach-ins on psychological first-aid and activist self care
      • Saturday 10am
      • Sunday 3pm, location TBA
    • If seeking medical assistance, find them near food tent
    • Seek assistance with graphical, digital layout and offset printing of psych first aid & activist self care pocket guide

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • Daniel
    • November 18, national day, "Rise and decolonize"
    • 3pm rally
    • 4pm walkout in honor of Declaration of Decolonization the GA approved
    • seek help with event promotion

Parents for Occupy Seattle Working Group

  • Bridgette
    • have Facebook page, Parents for Occupy Seattle
    • expresses support on behalf of parents and children involved with this movement
    • would like to involve themselves to full extent possible
    • would like stronger communications with other workgroups
    • if planning action or event they could support in some way, please contact
    • email Parents4OS@hotmail.com
    • will be with us this weekend
    • will meet this week to discuss outreach

Media Working Group

  • Mark
    • November 2 (next Wednesday), CEO of Chase Bank will be at Sheraton Hotel
    • there is no group working on march or picket
    • would be a good time to confront people who control Wall Street
    • would like to present proposal in future to rename Westlake Park to John T. Williams Park

Theatrical Working Group

  • Shane
    • Occupy the Musical
      • on schedule
      • will have it ready by next Friday
    • asked to assimilate group into Arts and Entertainment
      • won't do so
      • wants to talk to someone in that group

Fundraising Working Group

  • Fred
    • looking for a good woman who's looking for love, or a good man who's looking for love
    • if you help him with fundraising, he'll provide the love
    • needs help Saturday doing three jobs

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • Tabitha
    • 5:30pm tomorrow: Big meeting in front of Romax to plan Saturday move
    • will have lots of straw for Saturday to avoid mud
    • please re-use cups, bowls, utensils, and bring your own
    • 9pm nightly, Sanitation and Sustainability sort garbage/recycling/compost

Announcements of future proposals

  • ? – Will propose that we host 24-hour petition signing station at Westlake.
    • facilitator: can probably do that yourself, but suggest talking to Process and Facilitation

Proposals

  • proposal: Hold rally, march, and other fun activities on November 5, Bank Transfer Day. Need support and minimal funds for flyers, amplification, and other supplies. Also asking if you've had account with Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, bring statements and cards so they can be shredded.
    • restated: Provide full support of planning and actions for November 5 that Bank Transfer Day Temporary Working Group are working on
    • presenter: Andy, Jacob, and Zach of November 5 Bank Transfer Day Temporary Working Group
    • detail:
      • They're locating speakers to talk about finance and economic collapse, and about credit unions being part of the solution.
      • will march to various credit unions to sign up as members
        • drop off small groups of 10 or so to sign up while others continue on to other CUs
      • then march will become funeral procession for the big banks; will be music and other fun activities
      • need 30-40 people to volunteer to sign up
        • email OSDivestment@gmail.com
    • discussion
      • Will we let the CUs know ahead of time that we're doing this so they're not overwhelmed?
        • Yes. Have already spoken with people from BECU and others, who have offered to extend their hours and fully staff locations for us.
      • How will this affect big banks in the long run? Will bankrupt them? How will this affect the economy as a whole?
        • Don't know, but many CUs say they've had lots of signups.
        • Since Bank of America announced $5 fee, have lost 19,000 customers, and BECU have gained 13,000 members.
      • What day?
        • November 5. National day.
      • Fundraising committee will not be here on November 5. Please take care of excellent fundraising opportunities yourselves.
      • What is the procedure for burying a bunch of shredded plastic. Uneasy about creating a land fill.
        • Action is as follows: Shred all material, put in small coffins, walk them around the city behind New Orleans style funeral marching bands, drop at banks, nail them shut, put up signs with facts about the banks, and walk away.
      • There are people behind the tills (tellers). Worries about them. How to let them know this is not about them — not personal — but about other people.
        • All of our actions, facts, actions, are directed against the institutions. We're avoiding facts about things like job cuts for that reason.
        • First person spoken to at BECU at 2nd and Pine used to work at Chase. It was his first week there. He loved the idea.
      • Closed her account today, spoke to tellers, and they love this idea.
      • CEO of JP Morgan Chase is James Diamond. He made 20.8 million dollars last year. Very easy to draw a distinction between him and the people he takes advantage of.
      • Her credit union is Salal, used to be called Group Health Credit Union. Talking with them about having a presence on November 5. What time to ask them to be here?
        • Rally at 11. March around 12:30. Come whenever they'd like (early to set up table, etc.). Will need permit for table.
      • Hopes that we're not portraying credit unions as the end solution. Supports the day, has friend who was rejected for loan on his home mortgage. Need to raise demand for low interest for everyone.
        • That's important, but for now: Big banks are pretty fucked up, and credit unions are lots better.
    • vote
      • time: 20:46
      • proposal passes
  • proposal: Adopt Occupy Seattle Good Neighbor policy: [TODO: insert here]
    • presenter: Tabitha and Andrew
    • details
      • modeled on Occupy Wall Street's policy
        • tailored a bit to our needs
      • on Tuesday
    • discussion
      • Will smoke rule include incense? Some people are allergic to it.
        • Good point? What about ceremonial sage and tobacco, too?
      • Designated smoking areas yet?
        • Not at SCCC. Will do that soon after arrival.
      • Post sign for campers?
        • yes
      • Phil, drug policy activist
        • drug portion of this policy needs revision
        • alcohol is a drug
        • nicotine is a drug
        • caffeine is a drug
        • cannabis is legal for medicinal use in this state
        • peyote is used in religious ceremonies
        • need to say what a drug is if we're to prohibit them
      • ? – people have chemical dependencies; say be discrete, not don't do it
        • response: understands; this is symptom of disease society; tell people to go elsewhere
      • ? – drum regulation should close earlier than 9pm
      • ? – card-carrying medical marijuana patient who endorses this policy; we'll be under microscope; if drugs are involved, we won't have a voice
      • ? – suggests that we have collectively-defined smoke-free area
        • response: At Westlake, maybe designate outside of Bank of America and wherever cops hang out
      • ? – Have medical tent and surrounding area smoke free. People wondering around during day will break the discretion rules. If you see someone smoking a bowl, invite them into your tent.
      • ? – Many other occupations have similar policies and strictly enforce them. Not saying you can't do it, just don't do it in the occupation.
      • ? – Says we cannot enter building.
        • response: No, says only if accompanied by student/faculty/staff. At meeting with president today, expressed concern.
    • amendment proposed: prohibit burning incense
      • denied: could be religious reasons
    • amendment proposed: call it guidelines instead of policy, allowing for flexibility. Policy connotes hierarchy and authoritarianism. Guidelines allow for more personal, eye-to-eye interpretations.
      • accepted: "Occupy Seattle Good Neighbor Guidelines"
    • vote
      • time: 21:30
      • count: 34/32/36 yes, 17/17/15 no
      • blocks
        • This proposal violates the spirit if Occupy Seattle. Specifically, because Occupy Seattle is about reclaiming public space. SCCC is a public college. Is a student there and knows lots of people who have been shut out due to tuition hikes. Should say everyone has access to the community college.
        • To expand, it is our legal right to access that public space. They're targeting Occupy. The part about alcohol targets marginalized people who have been putting lots of effort into this movement. Discretion should be stressed. Zero-tolerance pushes totalitarianism and classism.
        • The Spirit of this goes to the heart. Needs to be more discussion of something of this magnitude.
        • discussion:
          • ? – Was at meeting with SCCC president. Regardless, also spoke with staff on the ground. Custodial workers were very concerned that they would be overburdened by thousands of people using the toilet. Part of this is to tell them that we will not overburden them. We'll be using the facilities regardless. We'll use the classrooms. Restrooms will be used. But need to stand with custodians and security guards, tell them that we'll take care of ourselves.
          • ? – One of the statements was about legality of entering buildings. Wonders if we've heard from legal. Also, regarding drugs and alcohol. Agrees about targeting. But this is a school. People are there to learn. Unsure if we can reconcile without being totally respectful of what blocker said.
          • ? – Time is of the essence, but we should iron out the details and bring this back tomorrow. Why not just say we support custodians and will not overburden the restrooms? Why try to pass such stringent regulations? It's dividing us.
          • blocker: Can't we just clean up after ourselves?
          • ? – As long as it's a public building and we enter as citizens, we have every legal right to be there.
          • ? – Liked this, but had to go away to deal with potential arrest of a man who was urinating in the Bank of America doorway (de-escalated and got the guy to walk away).
          • proposer: Spoke with legal, found that it's public, but privately-held. Non-students must leave if asked to do so.
          • ? – Tabitha from Sustainability has worked on this for weeks in conjunction with Tactical. Don't want to restrict people or their addictions, just want to sustain the movement.
        • vote
          • 21:56
          • 16 support block, 33 oppose, so block holds, proposal fails

Announcements

  • Brian Fnord with Eshem Working Group
    • trying to get Occupy Sesame Street going
      • inside joke that grew into more
      • try to get studio tour for children
      • opens dialogue with Seattle Center
        • maybe director will let us set up something there later
    • if you see people arguing on our Facebook pages/groups, try to mediate
  • Arturo
    • 2:30 – 5:30pm tomorrow: Party in support of people renewing their pledges to civil service
  • Chris
    • Need to organize event for when Jamie Diamond, president of JP Morgan Chase, visits next Wednesday
      • meet him after GA in front of See's
  • ?
    • Doctors and nurses at Harborview all support us
    • Friend wants to bring his truck with free coffee
  • Peter
    • Oakland passed 96% with 1600 people for general strike next Wednesday
    • Tomorrow after our GA, will discuss possibility of Seattle general strike
  • Jacob, Process and Facilitation
    • That block vote was confusing
    • Process is an ongoing process
    • P&F wants feedback. Please provide it so we can make this work better.
  • Paul
    • organizes with Seattle Solidarity Network
    • tomorrow, will picket supporting tenant screwed by Low Income Housing Institute
    • 4:45pm tomorrow 9th & Pine
  • Sara
    • friends at Sound on the Sound will do benefit for Occupy Seattle and OS library
    • Friday, November 4, Columbia City Theater, 9pm, $10
      • tribute to Phil Oaks
      • powerful protest songs
      • book drive
  • Scott
    • reminds everyone that Saturday at noon will be Chase Bank sit-in and Robin Hood Tax global march
    • working with Jesse to coordinate
  • ? – Friday mornings at 9:30, bank foreclosure auction action, 4th and Jefferson
  • Phil – carving pumpkins Sunday 2pm, light them 6pm, bring kids, friends, family, knives, but not 3" carving knives

Adjourned 22:08

General Assembly notes 10/25

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-25 19:45
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-25

Facilitation Team

  • Process mover: Hudson
  • Taking stack: Aliana
  • Time keeper: Jamie
  • Agenda: Lady Gaga

Special announcement about Oakland

  • Hudson
    • Occupy Oakland
    • This morning, 500 police in riot gear came into camp firing tear gas and rubber bullets.
    • 80 arrests
    • Thousands of people are in the streets now.

Open letter to Occupy Seattle

  • Ginger
    • She jumped in two weeks ago, was working with Food Working Group
    • Why are we all here?
      • She's here to create a more compassionate world.
    • Telling the powers that be that things are fouled up and they are fired.
    • General assembly and working groups are a seed for our future
    • not waiting for government officials; simply doing it
    • be compassionate with yourself, those around you, the police, the mayor
      • compassion is not weakness
    • Don't sacrifice your life for this movement.
    • No one person should hold Occupy Seattle on their shoulders. If people do, we should relieve them.

Campers

  • ? – starting a welcome group and wants to make sure everyone is appreciated, is thanked for being here, and can state their opinions freely
  • ? – thanks for being here
  • ? – Has been here 18 days. Was not here last night. Getting our asses kicked by the police. To learn about civil disobedience, meet at top of stage after GA. October 13 was only a small taste of what we're capable of. If you want to get arrested, he'll get arrested with you and find legal defense for both.
  • ? – Things also went awry in Chicago.
  • ? – We have very big weekend coming up. Reminds everyone of the long-term and the legacy of what the movement will have, which is community and the future of human civilization. That's what we're working toward this weekend: laying a corner stone, building a solid structure. This week, all of us should do outreach, bring people together.
  • ? – Has four businesses in this area that are willing to donate all the cardboard we need for the weekend. Red Lion Hotel: Friday 3:30. Red Fin Motel: every day 3:30. Theater department Sunday 5pm. Getting big white cloth and inviting people to join.
  • Timothy – This Friday 5:30pm, bring a clean bowl, a clean spoon, and a sense of humor, and you'll have a great time.
  • Circus – Has been away, has been at Occupy Portland. No problems with cops, big park to camp in, but big, different, problems. Saw some things that would be great to incorporate into a camp, saw some things that would be very frightening if he was part of the camp. Will make suggestions in next few days. We can take the good and improve on their challenges.
  • ? – Trying to collect witnesses from the anti-police brutality march on Saturday. Was one of them. Was charged with third-degree assault of a police officer.
  • Shawn – This is a political party. Everyone wants to have fun. Timothy said a great thing. Used to live in Portland. Ginger, who read the letter, is really onto something. Without numbers, we'll die. Need to keep numbers up. But a mob kills political power. We can do both the politics and the party. If we don't, we suck. Let's talk about it later.
  • ? – Believes in free speech, but we need to think about how we're being perceived. When we do interviews in front of where people are demonstrating, their are children and elderly people there. Need to think about the people around us because they hear everything we do.
  • Tabitha – Arrested last Thursday. Pursuing case against police. If you have video or photos, get in touch.
  • Ian – Livestream often gets video of arrests, archives most of it. Get in touch with date and time.

Working group announcements

  • time: 20:10

Legal Working Group

  • Patricia
    • upcoming court appearance
      • who: Brock, Marcia, and Dakota
      • when: Friday, October 28, at 2:00 p.m.
      • where: King County Courthouse
      • please be respectful
    • Has placed public records request for here in Westlake as well as Freeway Park for past five years
      • Reviewing these to consider long-term strategy

Tactical Working Group

  • Cameron
    • reviewing tactical and logistical issues surrounding move to SCCC and long-term sustainability of the movement
    • meet 3pm at Westlake Center food court, 9pm in front of Seattle's Best Coffee south OccupySeattleTactical@gmail.com

Outreach Working Group

  • Andy
    • have lots of ideas for outreach in larger Seattle community
    • meet 4pm and after GA in front of Sephora
    • received supportive letter from Puget Sound Alliance of Retired People
  • Joshua
    • will be on SCCC campus tomorrow from 8:30am until afternoon
    • call him 206-913-3423 if you can volunteer
  • ?
    • will have table on first floor, main hallway, for rest of week
    • drop-in volunteers encouraged

Sanitation Committee

  • Andrew
    • square looks good
    • needs
      • volunteer for daytime who can give square a good spot-clean
      • non-lethal rat traps
      • pallets (not ideas for acquisition, but to bring them)
      • new location will require restrooms in evening

Supply and Storage

  • Alyssa
    • still has our money, will make proposal
    • has warm clothes

Information Working Group

  • Norm
    • requests that when people organize an event, tell Info when it is and where it is
      • today there was a teach-in, and people asked where it was, but he could not answer them because he did not know

Media Working Group

  • Alliana
    • today, media committee issued press release announcing our move to SCCC Saturday 5pm

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • Michael
    • tomorrow's GA time coincides with dance party
    • WG considered how to make this democratic
    • doesn't think it will work if we can't hear or are too busy dancing
    • no GA tomorrow, decision-making GA on Thursday

Livestream Working Group

  • Ian
    • a week ago, one of our viewers, frustrated with the no-umbrellas-in-park rule, sent us 50 umbrella hats
      • wear one, scribble things on it, and have a semi-permanent structure on your head

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Circus
    • WG still understaffed
    • as we spread out, will have greater need
    • when you need P&S, look first to yourself

Upcoming Actions

  • Eric at Salino Mexicano Grill at Westlake Center food court wants to promote his business by giving discounts to Occupy Seattle. Say that John sent you.
  • home foreclosure auctions
    • only one place that the auctions can happen: outside on front steps of King County Courthouse
    • meet 9:30am Friday in front of Pioneer Building near Mario's Pizza, then march to steps to protest and disrupt
    • had handful of people last week
  • Let's make revolution hip. Have finest organization in the world. Have Facebook. Want to have fun, to talk. Let's make it about us.
    • Need to separate into two groups:
      • people who show up for kicks, to talk about whatever and eat, just like at a bar
        • they'll get us the cameras
        • without that, we'll have no leverage
      • ? (cut short)
  • Meeting tomorrow 7pm at Uptown Espresso to mobilize resistance to police brutality
    • Thanks to everyone who participated in last Saturday's march against police brutality
    • Three people have been murdered since Saturday
      • One of them a Marine. Was found with bullet wound and gun on him.
    • In Oakland now, people are being maced and brutalized
      • they're not backing down
  • Thurs, 7pm, at Revolution Books in Pioneer Square, having discussion on Occupy Wall Street movement to get perspective on bigger thing we're part of and how to make revolution.
  • Protest outside Social Security Administration at 6th and Blanchard, thurs 11:30-1:30, protesting cuts coming to Social Security Administration.
    • Cuts will make it more difficult for people to get benefits they earned.

Proposal notifications

  • time: 20:35
  • passed proposal that all proposals would be announced one day early, so now is time to announce upcoming proposals
  • Zach, Tactical and Bank Transfer Day Temporary Working Group
    • formed temporary working group to schedule outreach, speakers, rally, march, and other fun activities in conjunction with larger, national Bank Transfer Day on November 5
    • meeting after GA by hot dog stand to schedule further meetings
  • ? – For SCCC move, need to provide transportation to accommodate the disabled
  • Tabitha – Will propose good neighbor policy similar to New York's.
  • ? – Will propose Friday party at Westlake to honor everyone here, particularly Americorps volunteers who will be in town Friday to renew their pledges.
  • ? – Get together with everyone you know and ask them how they want to play with us. People will bring cameras, politicians will be in back.
  • facilitator: remember, these should be notifications of formal proposals planned for presentation at future meetings
  • ? – Friend is a self-employed marketing person. He'll find out if he can donate her services to the group.

Proposals

  • Alyssa
    • proposal: Put our money in the BECU bank account we opened yesterday. Checks written on that account should require two signatures Legal and Supply. No debit card, instead writing checks to cash at counter. Have weekly receipt cycle, with weekly reports to GA. Amounts over 1000 to require GA approval.
    • restated: Money put in BECU. Checks require two signers. No debit or ATM card. Finance does books weekly, and report back to GA. More than $1000 requires GA approval. Finance committee has at least three people. Signers approved by GA. Four positions kept filled.
    • rationale:
    • discussion:
      • How many people would be authorized to sign a check?
        • Would be two, requiring both of them.
      • Proposes amendment: Authorized signers to be approved by GA.
        • amendment accepted
      • Corey – Opened account Monday. Max count of authorized signers is four. Credit union will only allow people with good credit, no outstanding collections.
      • Alyssa – Supply and Legal need more people.
      • Proposes amendment: Max withdrawal without GA be $500 instead of $1000
        • consider current need as result of SCCC
          • truckload of hay bales
          • at least 80 tents
          • at least four camp stoves
        • amendment denied
      • Jacob – Current system is a lockbox. Not good. Vulnerable. Let's do this now as an improvement, refine later as needed.
      • Corey – Is now principle of the account. Needs name and address removed, so we need to replace, and figure out what address to use.
      • ? – Banks are open five business days.
        • BECU is open on Saturday, so we have six days. Will keep the lock box for Sunday.
      • ? – Having two signatures is standard legal procedure for accounts like ours or people dealing with estates. This is a way of having two witnesses to the same check.
      • ? – Has anyone volunteered for signatory positions?
        • Legal and supply have been checking to find, in confidence, who can pass credit check. Most of us are broke.
      • ? – $1000 is too high a cap. Trusts everyone but doesn't know how we'll ensure money well-used.
    • vote
      • time: 21:02
        • clear majority
        • proposal passes

Announcements

  • ? – Regarding Salina Mexicana, if you don't like the deal you get when you say John set you and you're with the occupation, he'll work with you
  • Tabitha – Sometimes after GA, emotions run high, so from now on after GA, she'll have a group afterward for anyone and everyone to come and release any emotions without discussion. Calling themselves Babble On. "As the towers fall, we shall babble on" Meet by towers unless there are too many cops there.
  • ? – We should show solidarity for Oakland
    • Unsure how to rally large number and raise visibility
  • Lady Gaga – Thanks for the solidarity, love, and support Occupy Seattle gives her and the rest of the LGBTQI community by moving to SCCC.
  • Phil – Night of 1000 Jack-O-Lanterns Sunday. Come down 2pm, light them at dusk. Bring friends, kids, pumpkins, knives.
  • Sanitation crew will go to SCCC to scout for restrooms.
  • Ian – It's not just Oakland tonight. Livestream viewers report raids in Atlanta, Baltimore,
  • ? – Raids are making national news. People in Seattle will be looking for ways to express outrage. Suggests we make emergency response, maybe tomorrow night, where we call everybody and say, "It's right to occupy," Get the word out everywhere.
  • ? – Reminder: After GA, there will be civil disobedience training on stage to protect us against raids at SCCC.
  • Elvina – Our numbers are small tonight. Why? She went on Facebook and saw at least eight people resigning due to internal conflict. It is crucial for us to stop bickering, stop bringing up things that have been voted out or in. At the end of the day, color and sexuality aside, we're here because we've been oppressed. Cannot micro-manage if we're not doing anything. Need to call our friends now. Movement is falling apart. Can't even decide where to go. How will we set an example? How to tell Bank of America we're serious? Cops and mayor have embarrassed us, but they're not our only targets. Need to perform outreach and keep things fresh. There is no news media here because nobody is here. Get friends to show. Bring people who resigned back.
    • some have been excluded when trying to say things and use stuff. Has left a couple times, saying he wouldn't come back, but did.
  • ? – Have opportunity with raids that happened. Our numbers dwindled after raid. Wants occupations to become stronger. New camp will allow us to start again with lots of positivity.
  • ? – They took our umbrellas away, but didn't say anything about hats. Is a box of umbrella hats. Take them and share.
  • ? – Need a big spiral hug right now.

Adjourned 21:19

General Assembly notes 10/24

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-24 18:43
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-24

Facilitation Team

  • Process mover: Allana
  • Taking stack: Kristin and Michael
  • Time keeper: Gabriel
  • Agenda keeper: Carol

Guest Speaker

  • Jesse from Occupy Wall Street
    • When you are confronted by the media or police, be mindful that you are a representative of each of your brothers and sisters. Have their best intentions in the back of your mind. Some feel righteous anger because they’ve been wronged. But the way we win is through peace. Powers that oppose us expect violence. They are only prepared for violence, and have no clue how to deal with a peaceful occupation. They call this a class war. You and I know we’re losing this war. We need to fight back with peace in our hearts and love and compassion. Advice: Act with peace in your heart and police your own so police have no reason to be involved. If you see violence, sexism, etc., be an objector. If you see something wrong, step forward, arms out. If people violate our principles, they should not be allowed to participate. This is a peaceful occupation of a public space. This is our space, and we’re taking it back — peacefully. Please share with everyone, at work, and place of worship, place of commerce, place of power, that this is a peaceful occupation by the people, representing the people whether they’re in New York, Boston, Wisconsin, or Seattle. We come to you in peace. We come to you in love. We invite you to join us.

Camper Check-in

  • Maria
    • Has done food and stuff since day one. Has noticed that when she tries to have food for other occupiers over night, things turned up missing or were blatantly stolen in front of her face. Needs more security, more eyes. Please help.
    • Needs more eyes on things. Is sick and tired of watching Parks Dept taking piles of donations away before people can use them. So, of you plan on staying over, please utilize every donation you can so she doesn’t have to explain to Parks staff that piles of things are hers.
  • Lana
    • Would like a space to talk to other campers that is a little quieter than GA. If you’re staying over night and want to compare notes, let’s talk. Seattle’s best after GA.
  • Danny
    • Was camping here for five days last week. Contracted bronchitus, had to take two-day vacation. Fortunately, is still here. Will remain here until Occupy Seattle and Occupy Wall Street have their demands met. Join us. Understands if you can’t make it all the time, but at least show up once, in the name of solidarity. The cough drops are awesome.
  • ?
    • Has been cold. Was not here last night because he saw that it was 38 degrees last night. Bundle up or you’ll get hypothermia.
  • ?
    • Thanks everyone for coming. Hopes everyone goes back to homes and communities and does as much outreach as possible.
  • ?
    • Some of her friends were here, drove three hours. Were kicked by someone here. Was completely uncalled for and doesn’t want to see it again.

Working group announcements

  • time: 19:08

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach
    • WG has been working hard on short- and long-term options for expansion of occupation. Will bring proposal regarding best short-term options to Wednesday’s GA.
      • Please join them if you have ideas to contribute
      • Meet 3pm, 9pm, and Westlake food court

Demands Working Group

  • Emily
    • WG is working on proposal for demands. Justin spoke briefly about it last night.
    • Demand: City of Seattle take our money out of big banks.
    • meeting tomorrow 4pm by See’s Candy

Sanitation Committee

  • Andrew
    • Everyone doing well. Square is very clean. Clean enough to eat off of. Don’t do that.

Animal Rights and Environmentalism Working Group

    • As industries profit off exploitation of all beings, human and non-human, and the destruction of our environment
    • AR&E WG works to expose those hidden practices and offer solutions that benefit all beings and the Earth in which we all live in.
    • Meet weekly, Mondays at 5:30 near See’s Candies.
    • find contact info on website under Demands tab
      • email OSAREWG@gmail.com

Learning and Self-education Work Group

  • Jasmine
    • meeting Weds 8pm at Turf
    • want to have a way to easily communicate what teach-ins are going on, so if you plan to teach one, go to Information booth and leave a note
    • This Saturday will be day of visioning. They’ll send notices as widely as possible, will have people bring three-part drawings: What’s wrong with society, what they think could come out of occupation, and what their vision is. Then at 3pm, will go sit by pictures and start talking to people next to us, really listen, not be afraid of difficult stories, stories of oppression, discrimination, and other difficult topics.
    • email OSEnvision@gmail.com

Storage Committee

  • Alyssa
    • still has our money, please vote to to put them in the bank account
      • nearly $1000
    • will be cold tonight, so giving cold weather supplies to medical
    • phone doesn’t ring enough. If you need supplies, call. Don’t have time to run all over City Hall and Westlake.
      • 206-892-8136, 206-501-5715
    • needs
      • hand warmers
      • blankets
      • hot meals
    • thank you to Aerospace Machinist Union Lodge 571 for donation TODO: check number

Outreach Working Group

  • Andy
    • yesterday, did program at Ballard Farmers Market
      • people wanted to come down here, but want a reason, want events and things going on, not just meetings
    • meet every day at 4pm and after GA in front of Sephora
    • getting money into the bank would be good; have been paying individually for flyers
    • if you have events, get them on the calendar to give people a reason to come

Arts and Entertainment Working Group

  • Ariana
    • have events planned
      • Wednesday: have two well-known DJ’s spinning here from 6-9pm
      • if direct action is to occur, please have it while people are here. Is important to capture interest of those who wouldn’t otherwise be interested.
    • On 15th at big march, dressed up as Lady Liberty in chains. Image was on front page of Sunday paper.
    • first official meeting was today at 4pm
    • have group on Facebook, will announce events on forum

Media Working Group

  • Aliana
    • Have mission statement. It’s on the website. Encourages other WGs to have mission statement. Helps Media understand the cohesiveness of the movement.
    • Meet daily 4pm in front of See’s Candies (this includes weekends)
    • If you have an event that needs to be advertised, Media will do it for you. See her or any WG member. They wear green armbands.
    • Email address is listed on the website. Can send message about your event to that address.

Fundraising Working Group

  • Fred
    • has check for $1000, not made out to Occupy Seattle because the person who wrote it trusts him, wrote it to him.
    • Lots of people want to give money but don’t trust him so much. Need bank account so they can write checks so we can have money to help move campaign forward.
    • other needs:
      • Have benefit coming up, planning more. If familiar with organizing, publicizing musical concerts, or would like to be familiar with it, get in touch.
      • people to help sell signs
        • spoke with people at Labor Temple today. Unions are interested. Need to build contacts and make sales.

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • Shawn
    • Have noticed, as everyone likely has, that the block is a little bit glitchy, as is the proposal process. Are working on it. Not easiest thing
    • Meet daily, 4:30pm under Romax sign
    • email ProcessAndFacilitation@gmail.com
    • will likely bring proposals tonight
      • limit number of decision-making GAs to four per week starting next week
      • proposals must be announced 24 hours in advance of GA presentation

Legal Working Group

  • Alex
    • Nobody has been arrested lately, so not worrying about defense now.
    • Next Sunday, location TBA, will meet to discuss legal offense.

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • Arless
    • Have over 21 partners nationally (organizations and other occupations)
    • To get on the email list, HipHopOccupies@gmail.com
    • website http://HipHopOccupies.com

White Anti-Racist Caucus

  • Allana
    • called on to do education about language of occupation as relates to indigenous communities
    • caucus held daily 5:30pm to have conversation

Logistics Working Group

  • Doc
    • insurgencies run today (you know who you are) will never know his staff because they are sworn to secrecy
    • needs:
      • disposable mobile phones
      • people willing to be arrested

misc

  • Andrew
    • November 5 is coming up: Bank Divestment Day.
      • Should start planning now
      • He put something on the calendar for tomorrow night to start talking
        • response: Tactical is working on that.
        • response: Outreach is working on that. 4pm daily and after GA
  • Art Mitchell and Joey
    • Need help with collecting evidence and testimonies from Saturday’s arrests
    • If you were there, meet by fountain

Morale Working Group

  • Danny
    • duty is to keep spirits up
    • need activities and participants to help keep morale up
      • is convinced that this movement will succeed
      • your positive energy will help make it real
      • don’t need to be a member of Morale to help cheer us up

Proposals

  • time: 19:41
  • proposal: Begin a mass occupation at Seattle Central Community College on Saturday with tents, to prepare for it all week, and to keep occupying SCCC until we vote to do otherwise.

    • presenter: Matt and Jordan
    • background: Last night, passed by overwhelming majority, then was blocked. Will explain what happened, how has been adjusted. Will vote on the rest if the main proposal passes.
      *rationale:

      • Safety cannot be guaranteed by the law anywhere.
        • If authorities want us out, will try to get us out. It’s an occupation. Taking back public space through struggle.
      • Will be easier to defend ourselves if we can win broad public support.
      • Pressuring the Mayor is very difficult, and not working well.
      • At SCCC, with huge base of support, can put massive pressure on campus president. Flyering and campaigning is ongoing.
      • Commuter students will be more likely to participate if they can camp out on campus.
      • President has already claimed we’ll disrupt education. We know occupation is an educational experience.
      • SCCC is even more visible than Westlake.
      • Westlake dies nightly, empowering police. On Broadway, will always be visible, and will draw support from the community.
      • Many students of color and working class students will have an opportunity to join, as will LGBTQI community.
      • Not giving up on downtown. Not a retreat. GA’s still here unless voted otherwise.
      • Stop wasting time rebuilding every night, and go on the offensive.
    • sketch of action plan: Proposed schedule: 5pm march Saturday from here to Central. 6:30pm speak-out without proposals at Central. Halloween party starting at 8pm. Tent raising ceremony 8:30.
    • How to carry it out:
      • Create Occupy Seattle Central Community College committee to meet daily for everyone who wants to move. Workgroups can join and collaborate. Medical, Legal, Peace and Safety may feel overwhelmed, so propose they hold trainings later this week. Media and Internet teams would announce this tonight, call for volunteers later this week. Are not leaders, not trying to take over. Work groups are not leaders, either. If we want this occupation to last, vote for this and take lead yourselves to make this happen. Learned at Westlake.
    • discussion:
      • Sarah – Has been student at UW and eastern. If you do not have student ID and step foot on campus, can be arrested for trespassing.
        • area occupying is regarded as public space; plaza area on south end
      • Sarah – if the president of the school decides to make an example of us, could be arrested.
      • ? – If we all worry about every little thing we could get arrested for, would not have an occupation. Thinks everyone here opposes 23% tuition hikes, shutting down daycare center at SCCC, and is tired from being here all night.
      • ? – Are suggesting that entire local movement move from City Hall Plaza and from Westlake Park to move to SCCC? Part of argument being made is contingent upon massive faculty and student body support. What proof and reassurance have they that support exists?
        • First part: not part of this proposal tonight. Could be decided after we decide on this. Second part: Is student there, others are here as well. Walk-outs that happened involved largest contingent from SCCC.
      • ? – Noticed that over the past week, only thing keeping us together is a meeting. Wants community that doesn’t center on a meeting.
      • ? – Was concern raised about actual proof that we have active support at Seattle Central. As faculty member and someone who has attended since very first GA, will address. True, no written promise from students, faculty, and staff. SCCC has long, radical history of having supported radical movements. Only reason we have not yet conducted massive outreach at SCCC, is wants GA to approve. Have several students ready to hit the ground and conduct outreach at SCCC.
      • ? – Agrees that we need to do something because we’re getting murderized here. What happens if this idea of moving to place where we’re not getting murderized, we go to SCCC and face same opposition? What will happen if we get creamed there like we’re getting creamed here. No guarantee from president that he’ll support us there. We’re cold and hungry.
        • There’s no guarantee. Might face opposition. This is an occupation. It’s illegal. That’s the nature of it.
      • ? – Mentioned having discussions with Tactical and other working groups. Can we hear from Tactical and proposers about content of discussions.
        • Calling for formation of open committee. Have put word out. Wants to work with other groups.
      • ? – Best defense is to mobilize. Proved this two Saturdays ago when with our mass occupation, police had to back down. SCCC would give us large base from which to mobilize. This Saturday is decisive. Should leverage large number of people.
      • Duff – From October 1, our first Saturday here at Westlake, has been arguing passionately to stay here. Changed mind. Now supports proposal to move to SCCC. We no longer have an occupation here. Salutes those who are still camping here, but do not have enough overnighters for this occupation. Chances of occupation are greater at SCCC than here. We are occupation, illegal, guerrilla warriors. Meld into city at SCCC.
      • ? – This is hasty. We have not allowed workgroups to weigh in. People here have illogical emotional attachment to going to SCCC. Is not wed to any proposal, but wed to XXX
        • No other location has safety that buffer that is entire community we can tap into, that is not in banks, downtown shopping center. We’ll go up there and join with the people. Not hasty. If Tactical didn’t get it, haven’t been listening. All a work group is is a group that does stuff. Instead of saying this is emotional, Tactical should explain why this doesn’t meet their criteria.
      • Liam – Was one of the people who initiated walkout at SCCC. Had 300 students. Had support of teachers, students, staff. Have plans to get signatures every day this week from students, workers, teachers on campus to show support. Already have editorial in New City Collegiate. Meeting with president and student council to make case for why this is good. Will be unstoppable if we go where there’s large support. Our weakest time is during the day when students are there to support us.
      • ? – It is grass. That many people on grass will screw up the grass. Question for faculty member: Said several people ready to work with us. Please define “several”.
        • Did not say that several faculty members are ready. Said what Liam clarified about SCCC students, that they’re ready to carry this out. Re grass: plaza like this, and can use tarps and palates to protect grass.
      • ? – Student debt crisis is next mortgage crisis. Logical step is to move toward student involvement. Dream has always been alive for those of us who are students.
      • ? – Young people are always looking for a purpose. This is a great purpose, and young people are already there. We can always move if it doesn’t work out. Let’s check it out, and if it sucks, we’ll pick somewhere else.
      • ? – We should be clear, as others have said, that there are no guarantees. However, this is an extremely well-discussed, well though out, detailed plan. Idea that this is emotional or not well-planned seems to be coming from Tactical, with whom he met. Seems that they don’t have a plant, but long checklist, discussion, and lack of tactics. We have tactics. We know this will work. Need students, faculty, staff, surrounding community. Let’s have a great Halloween party.
      • ? – Stands here as rep of overnight community. Before this was in opposition to going go Central. Now supports it.
    • vote
      • time 20:22
        • blocks (2)
          • Corey, Legal – Likes lots about idea of moving. This goes against fundamental principles of this protest. As we speak in this park, we have a legal right to be here. Multiple federal courts have upheld that right against the same laws City is trying to enforce against us being here. If we move to SCCC, no matter what has been said, it is not a location we have legal right to set foot upon. Without invitation, it’s illegal. Would become an unlawful protest. Here, we are lawful protest. One of the fundamental principles of Occupy Seattle is taking part in lawful and peaceful protest. Have legal right to be here. Can continue to fight that battle. Can win that battle. Legal precedent supports this. No legal right to be on SCCC property, which is reserved for students. It’s not an open space at which we have right to speak or protest. Looking at severe consequences.
          • discussion:
            • ? – We don’t have principles, so doesn’t know what he’s talking about. If it’s legal, why are cops arresting us?
              • They’re doing it unconstitutionally. This is a public space to which we have a right. We do not have that at SCCC.
            • ? – It may be legal during the day, but is not at night. Overnight, people endure constant harassment from police regardless of Constitution.
              • Understands concerns. We have legal recourse to those police actions. Will not have legal recourse at SCCC. Has been here every night after 10pm, knows what the cops are doing.
            • ? – Block is to be used in violation of core principles against core principles of Occupy Wall Street. Brining up practical issues, not principles. Duty of work groups is to work these out before bringing to general assembly.
              • Has already explained that XXX
            • ? – Occupy Wall Street is an illegal occupation.
            • ? – Legal recourse could take years.
          • vote
            • time: 20:38
            • 108 for, 26 oppose
            • Block overridden, proposal passes
  • proposal: Action at Chase Bank noon Saturday, before they close.

    • presenter: Dan, who helped create Occupy Seattle Labor Caucus
    • rationale:
      • Want to draw more people to Occupy Seattle. Focusing on banks will do this.
      • Don’t intend to have mass arrests, but to draw media attention.
      • want action to provide mass and material support for Occupy Seattle
      • Union leadership wants to see GA approval of this action.
      • If this works, could lead to long and fruitful relationship with unions.
    • discussion:
      • Will send link to website. Banks borrowed our money, did not pay interest back, not loaning money back to us, but buying American T-bonds and earning money on the money we gave them.
      • Our money is not ours, it’s loaned to us by Federal Reserve bank.
    • vote
      • time 20:53
      • proposal passes unanimously
  • proposal: Proposals must be publicly announced the day before they’re brought to vote, in a facilitated assembly, maybe lunch assembly, maybe evening assembly

    • restated: all proposals will be brought to facilitated discussion minimum of one day prior to vote
    • presenter: Shawn
    • source:
    • rationale:
      • Trying to force consensus is XXX. Hopefully this will open up time for other stuff.
      • Proposals are a bad time to bring emergency things.
    • discussion:
      • ? – What about emergency proposals?
        • If we allowed, we’d have 12 emergency proposals each day. If this makes you uncomfortable, come talk to us.
      • ? – We should think three times before we speak. Often people do not. Can think three times about what to say in a 24-hour period.
      • ? – Why go somewhere we’re not welcome?
        • We already voted on that.
      • ? – Loves this. Would like to see proposals posted for 24 hours so we don’t have to hear them through the grapevine.
        • Additional proposal will be brought that will stipulate this.
      • ? – Need exact language prior day, or just general idea?
        • Will soon have method to help people polish their proposals during that period.
    • vote
      • 21:02
      • proposal passes
  • proposal: There will be four decision-making GAs per week, on Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday. Other GAs, held nightly or as desired will be for discussion, refinement, and debate of proposals, among other things.

    • presenter: Jacob
    • source: Process and Facilitation
    • rationale:
      • Discussion GAs are important. Want to make space for that.
      • Ties in with proposals being made day in advance.
    • discussion:
      • Would it be possible to make exception for emergency proposals on discussion night?
        • Have discussed some process to do that. Problem is defining emergency. May be important to some but not to others.
      • Wants to encourage inclusivity. Likes this. Has anyone spoken to religious groups about voting on Sundays?
        • No. Part of the decision of days was to strike balance of availability. Some can’t come on weekdays, others can’t be here on weekends.
      • Would proposals need to be made on certain nights?
        • No. Will now have facilitated discussion GAs during the day.
    • vote:
      • time: 21:12
      • proposal passes

Announcements

  • Liam
    • Have plan for SCCC organizing.
    • Join at atrium any day this week from 8:50am to 2pm to collect petition signatures.
    • 3:30pm, every day, anyone who wants to work with their club, come meet.
  • ?
    • is student at SCCC
    • teachers frequently provide opportunities to talk about Occupy Seattle
  • ?
    • Twice people Have people from occupation twice who got on bus, handed out fake bus passes, and encouraged people to ride for free. To participate, keep ear out for “mob a bus”.
  • ?
    • UW student, organizing teach-ins
    • have suggestions for professors, send them to SJWissmer at aol.com
  • ?
    • Has been gone a few days, loves all of us. Will figure way to get wicked prizes for Halloween costume contests.
  • ?
    • Sanitation needs another volunteer now.
  • ?
    • No proposal failed tonight. Good job.
  • ?
    • Thanks for good GA which did not lead him to walk away in frustration.
  • ?
    • Another bank action — this one an occupation — is in the works for next week.
      • meet after GA to discuss
  • Shawn
    • For productive further discussion: We don’t know what our fundamental principles are. Finding them through debate and blocks.
    • Regarding emergency proposals: GA’s are great for deciding policy, but not good place to decide at last minute about actions. Need to think a lot about how we read the policy and the proposals we’ve already brought, an proposals we’re going to bring, so when we have emergency, can act on what we’ve already decided when we have time for deliberation.
  • Doc
    • Have contingency groups going to banks with these people. Needs help.
  • ?
    • Had second proposal for SCCC, but facilitators suggested did not need to propose, could just go with it. But in interest of consensus building, will read times again. Any known time conflicts?
      • 5:00pm – march from Westlake park to SCCC
      • 6:30pm – speakout at central (like GA without decisions)
      • 8:00pm – Halloween party
      • 8:30pm – tent raising
    • in other cities are sometimes calling non-voting GAs general gatherings
  • Ross Grimshaw
    • is grad student at University of Washington
    • helping organize Chase bank action
      • needs support of undergrads at UW and other schools
  • poster and handbill for mass occupation and Halloween party will be posted to Faceobok and website tonight

Adjourned 21:29

General Assembly notes 10/23

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-23 18:35
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-23

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Ian
  • Time keeper: Jamie
  • Taking stack: Val
  • Agenda: Chase
  • Orientation: Nicholas

Campers

  • Kristen
    • Had a good time last night. At Westlake Park, couple people, as a non-violent protest, set their sleeping bags near the police. Many people joined by placing their sleeping bags out. She left at 5am, and the cops had not done anything about this. Doesn't know the reason (weekend, press?), but was awesome. We talked, debated, then slept.
  • ?
    • Those of us who try to stay here every night can't sleep. Can't lay down, can't sleep on a blanket or put one under us.
  • ?
    • Consistent pattern: After about 2:30, police allow blankets and laying on the ground.
  • ?
    • Was one of the people sleeping with blankets in front of police. Was fun. Please join tonight.
  • ?
    • Loves sleeping outside.
  • ?
    • Thanks those who are metaphorically keeping the fire burning, camping down here under increasingly-difficult circumstances (declining weather, declining number of people staying). Has stayed overnight, can't do it all the time, appreciates those who are here.
  • Kellen
    • Concern among people with whom he's mingled: Seems there are dividing factions. Not necessarily opposing, but dividing. Is a contingency of people who view the occupation of Seattle as being an intentional community for the purpose of building consensus among individuals and as a group with the vision of building a movement for justice. Other faction seems to be those who have in mind to simply reform our current structures. He doesn't see these as oppositional viewpoints, but this is causing conflict. Hopes we can understand each other and where we're coming from.
  • Chris
    • Wonders if there are plans in motion to get permits to continue camping at Westlake Park. Any acts in motion to relieve stress from police so some of us can get some sleep.
      • We've been engaging in direct action opposing the police harassment. Has proven effective to use lights shining in the eyes of police officers as they do to us. They often turn off their lights after persistent light warfare.
  • Ellie
    • Read on Seattle City Council website that a motion will be voted on Monday, October 31, in support of Occupy Seattle. We have an excellent chance of winning that vote. If McGinn wants a second term, he needs to support us. We're wasting lots of energy fighting the cops. We need a home like Portland's so we can build our movement, come together as a community.
    • Denny Park might be good home for us. Envisions as an interim measure, being like Nickelsville (very sustainable, safe, intentional, positive). Denny Park could be good.
  • Linda
    • This is an occupation. Do we really need permits? She doesn't think so.
  • ?
    • Westlake is excellent front line. Excellent visibility. Great forward operating base. Terrible command post. Cannot sustain command post here. Does not want to open another debate in what has been a very positive start to GA.
    • Let's keep Westlake as front line, forward operating base. Let's find another place for command post.
    • Good general does not throw all resources to the front line, but holds some in reserve. We should do this, and we should do it before La Nina winter comes and makes it miserable for us. Weather will be bigger enemy than police and permits. Those days are only days away.
  • ?
    • There is possibility of office/conference center at 3rd Ave and Union, at Seattle Sustainability Campaign.
    • Suggests finding when City Council vote happens so we can be there to support.
  • Doc
    • Really loves seeing us here.
    • Insurgency that we launched has no arrests, great coverage.
    • If can risk arrest and have fun, please see him.
    • Still needs folks who can be disposable for peaceful disobedience.
  • ?
    • Rode down on bike, locked to garbage can by police van. Now it's gone.
  • Jonathon
    • Energy is real. Many young people don't believe our numbers will grow large enough to make a difference.  Awareness is necessary for change.
  • Loree
    • Hasn't camped here but her spirit is here. Supports us and agrees that we need to establish a base. Need to be here because this is what we're fighting against. Need to stay peaceful and know that we don't need physical bodies to be here. Millions of people support us. Remember this when times get rough.

Working group announcements

  • time: 19:05

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Stian
    • We have a calendar (http://occupyseattle.org/calendar). We do not filter events, does not have to be an official Occupy Seattle event. Is for direct actions, work groups, and other events in the spirit of our movement. Instructions can be found on the calendar page.
    • E-mail address: OccupySeattleICT@gmail.com
      • Contact if you'd like them to do something or volunteer. To expedite, Include as much detail as possible.

Tactical Working Group

  • Peter
    • Joint statement from: Process and Facilitation, Food, Outreach, ICT, Tactical, Peace and Safety, Medical, Legal
    • Occupants of Westlake and the working groups which provide support to Westlake have continuously expressed desire for additional and stable base camp. Around 15 locations are being seriously scrutinized for their tactical and logistical advantages. To best prepare ourselves for this transition and maintain the advantage of surprise, we are not at this time announcing the names of these locations. Instead, we will share the list of tactical priorities against which these locations will be judged. Wednesday, we will provide an important update on how the proposal and possible establishment of this base camp will proceed. Stress that this is meant to be short-term and interim solution while gathering strength for next long-term steps.
    • Requests:
      • two reps from each working group attend 5pm inter-team meetings held daily this week
      • feedback on priorities:
        • legal implications of the site
        • 24-hour access to and display of tents at the site
        • water access
        • defensibility
        • shelter from the elements
        • public gathering space
        • nearby public transportation
        • ideal space for camping and facilities for waste management
      • patience while they determine which locations can actually support our supply, medical, and other logistical necessities
    • as soon as possible, within days, an actionable solution will be brought for proposal
    • encourage to go to second floor Westlake Mall food court where tactical meets if would like to discuss and share other site priorities
    • discussion
      • Was not a joint statement
        • Yes, it was
          • please join people after GA for further clarification

Livestream Working Group

  • Jake
    • Got the Mayor to commit to interview with livestreamers
      • will be next week, exact date TBA
      • to submit questions for the Mayor, give to Ian after GA by tomorrow
      • discussion
        • Will Media provide questions?
          • response from Ian: He'll select them, as he will conduct interview, but won't attempt to censor

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • Ed
    • proposals for streamlining GA to come this week: (announcing early to facilitate development and revision)
      • all proposals announced one day in advance so they can be discussed, revised prior to announcement at GA
      • general assemblies nightly, but decisions made only on four of them, leaving three for open-ended discussions like we had last night
        • decision nights Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, others: no proposals, no decisions
        • come talk to them 4:30pm by Romax

Money out of Politics Working Group

  • Chris
    • new working group, will meet Sundays at 3pm by See's Candies
    • Had discussion about getting money out of politics

Demands Working Group

  • Justin
    • working on first possible demand
      • City of Seattle holds lots of money in multiple banks, particularly Wells Fargo. Considering proposal demanding that City Council withdraw or at least really consider getting out of Wells Fargo.
        • Will be discussing for a while.
    • find Demands group, usually meet 4pm daily (every weekday and some weekends), in front of See's Candies or third floor of Westlake Mall (little nook on the side, explore to find)

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Cameron
    • Working on recruitment of members. Need more.
      • Need enough people to have two people here to represent P&S at all times.
      • Need people at City Hall Plaza, too, to deal with theft, etc.
    • Meet by Peace Tree, third south of Pine Street
    • Yesterday's march was peaceful
      • Was it? Police beating with bikes?
        • March divided
          • Group that broke off: Peace and Safety members were there to get them back with the rest of the crowd, slowly, peacefully, one-by-one.

Occupy Halloween Working Group

  • Jake
    • Next weekend, Saturday, will kick off Occupy Halloween.
      • encourages us, our families, particularly with kids, to come down wearing our message
        • bankster, corporate zombie, Captain Credit Untion
      • noon until 10pm
      • costume contests hourly, chances to talk about costumes and why here
      • bring punch pie, pumpkin soup
      • every creative idea does not need approval; just do it

Sanitation Committee

  • ?
    • good news: square looks great
    • bad news: for immediate future, porta-potties not feasible. Very expensive. Way more than a box you poop in should be.
    • need volunteers to research sustainable, homemade, do-it-yourself, porta-potties
      • meet by dumpsters after GA

Politics Working Group

  • Andrew
    • started WG yesterday, but didn't hang around for people to join
    • please read news, find scandals and interesting stuff
    • meet after GA
    • Bank of America is lining up for another bailout; may be taking trillion if they take a dive. November 5 is take your money out of banks event country-wide. Let's put two and two together.

Medical Working Group

  • ?
    • Had teach-in on psychological first aid and activist self-care
    • download your own at http://growing-hope.com/articles/pfaactivist-pocket-guide or http://bit.ly/oCSBVn
    • encourage radical self-reliance
    • happy to help, happier when you help yourself
    • If you use incense, make cigarette smoke, or wear personal scent products, be aware that this prevents others from participating in GA and other activities. Please do elsewhere.
    • tweeting health, safety, and wellness @occupyhealthy

?

  • Elvina
    • Wore tent as costume. Some cops laughed, others were angered. Was creative act of civil disobedience.
    • Will go tomorrow in costume to Bank Of America to interview bankers.
      • Would like to simultaneously have people wrap the entrance of Bank of America in crime scene tape
        • needs help with this
      • please meet next to Peace Tree after GA to discuss annoying Bank of America

Proposals

  • time: 19:33
  • proposal: Resolved: Before this assembly, we are Occupy Seattle. No change to this name shall happen except by a unanimous vote of a scheduled meeting of the general assembly.
    • restated: (same)
    • presenter: Chris
    • discussion
      • ? – Thinks that this proposal goes against the principals of the GA because it concerns future and already-made proposals. Proposals like this should be blocked because it is probably referring to the People of Color's proposal to rename. It's a passive-aggressive move. Bring it up in context of those proposals.
      • ? – This proposal is unnecessary because block can cause requirement of 4/5 supermajority. Requiring unanimity is not necessary. Voted to keep name, but doesn't like this proposal.
        • response: still feels that we are Occupy Seattle
      • ? – Idea that we could pass something by simple majority that would require a unanimous decision of something later on is completely undemocratic. Sorry, bad idea.
      • ? – We are movement building. This means there is potential for name to change, not just here but nationally. Movements always change names. Cannot predict the future.
      • ? – This is a way to dampen dissent. This is the way the Republicans try to deal with Democrats in Congress. This is completely undemocratic. Would prefer we not use this as a way to talk about same issue again.
      • ? – When Occupy Seattle started and name was chosen, it was by small group of people for sake of convenience. Was not general consensus of people of Seattle.
        • response: However, it's the right name. We are Occupy Seattle.
      • ? – Name "Occupy Seattle" leaves the purpose for people gathering here broad and general. By changing the name we then label the people who come here as part of something other than what they came here for. By leaving it Occupy Seattle, make it clear to others that this is a place we chose to occupy so we can form our own groups and tackle problems.
        • response: change would cause problems with media, Internet, etc.
      • point of order: we're voting on whether to change conditions required to change name, not on changing name
      • ? – Agrees not with the proposal, but with the spirit of it. Was here for previous discussion. Lots of mean things said on both sides. Fracturing movement in other cities. Seeks proposal some other night for dealing with painful, contentious issues in GA.
      • point of process: proposer should use people's microphone
      • point of process: facilitator asked for supporting comments, aren't any, we're calling for vote
    • vote
      • time: 19:57
        • clear majority opposed; proposal fails
  • proposal: mass move to SCCC this weekend, with preparation all week
    • restated: begin mass occupation, indefinitely, at Seattle Central Community College on Saturday night, with tents, and prepare for it this week
    • restated: begin mass, indefinite, occupation at Seattle Central Community college on Saturday night, with tents, and prepare for it all week.
    • restated: (same)
    • rationale: Know that some groups are preparing alternatives, but if we really want to move this Saturday when we have mass support, need to start the process tonight. Courage of people holding Westlake Park is appreciated. Simply having heart is not enough. Simply having smart tactics against the police is not enough. Need to wage broader political battle to gain support to put pressure on authority figures who are sending cops to try to destroy our movement. Will be easier to pressure President of Seattle Central than to pressure the Mayor. Battle we may be able to win for the reasons:
      • already know that President of SCCC does not support us
        • this is because he supports interests of the 1%
      • however, already have mass base among faculty, students, staff
      • student walkout last week had largest from SCCC
      • many students support this movement; to keep it alive we should support them
      • not proposing to abandon Westlake; GA is still here unless we decide otherwise later
        • need to focus on direct action against financial institutions downtown
        • need home base from which to launch those
      • word already going out from clubs on campus, online publications, print publications
    • discussion
      • Nicole – Tactical is doing lots of work investigating all the things we need. If we go there without the support of SCCC President, where will we cook, use restroom? Still cold in grass at Seattle Central. Would like to wait for Tactical report before moving from one temporary place to another. Can we try not to plan multiple events on same night (e.g., big move when there's a big party that night)
        • proposer: clarification: President does not support, but have faculty support
      • Justin from Demands – would split us, change from movement people identify with to a mob. Would lose people, preclude political victory.
      • ? – 10th day here, at least 15 hours a day here, but doesn't sleep here. Wants to do stuff, not wait around. Wants child care, things Portland has. If this has most support, really wants to do it.
        • proposer: Appreciates work Tactical is doing. Saw some of their research. Criteria are good. SCCC meets may of them.
          • visibility, immediate logistical support, people nearby (residential areas nearby), people watching at night, so if cops try to do something, there is more visibility than here. Still close to downtown. Can use building * need to focus on direct action against financial institutions downtown
      • ? – Likes Capitol Hill, but knows people there are generally down with what we're doing. People coming home from work won't detour through Capitol Hill.
        • proposer: flash mobs, outreach
      • Lady Gaga – Member of LGBTQI community. Lots of support on Capitol Hill.
      • ? – as stated earlier, Westlake is a good front line. Need operating base. SCCC has history of movements. Black Panthers and Oriental Student Unions have occupied SCCC in past.
      • ? – Does not support SCCC for long-term (grass, mud, bad drainage, small, bad part of town). But is great idea to occupy for Halloween. Best part of town for Halloween.
      • ? – Dislikes for multiple reasons: 1) President not on board. Trading one place we're unwelcome for another where we're unwelcome. 2) Have group evaluating 15 places we could move. SCCC is on that list. If it turns out to be optimal, is worthy of consideration. But if we move too early, could shoot ourselves in the foot. 3) Heard police are already looking around SCCC. Not as secure as might think.
        • There's continuous support there.
      • ? – Supports for multiple reasons: 1) Boost in numbers, 2) Youth culture of Capitol Hill will bolster and support us. 3) Numbers of people of color will be boosted.
      • ? – For movement to continue need to move. Wants to hear from Tactical. Excited about moving. Notes that most important thing about movement is not where spend night but how we spend our activities. Need place we can organize, pull our money out of credit unions, etc.
      • Seattle Central is closer to Westlake than you might think. Keep it in mind. People there are moving around at all hours. Not so at Westlake. Safer there overnight when police try to evict. Downtown is harder to defend than Capitol Hill. Capitol Hill is more residential. But it's still commercial area, not as much so as Westlake, but still banks and big businesses there.
      • ? – From Legal: If we make move to occupy both SCCC and Westlake, Legal does not have resources to support two locations of unwanted occupations, just one.
        • proposer: Not about dividing forces, about joining forces up there. About moving base camp, not where GA is.
      • ? – Favors. Urgent because: Showed two Saturdays ago that we can successfully occupy Westlake in face of police harassment, but requires hundreds of people. Don't have hundreds here during week. Numbers are dwindling. If we don't take action soon, likely that occupation will be broken up. SCCC provides numerous tactical advantages. More defendable, easier to get larger turnout. Need time to mobilize there. Saturday is the best day to make a move, because we're likely to have mass turnout on Saturday, could then march to SCCC. It's vital for GA to rapidly decide so word can get out and students and staff can start building active base.
      • ? – It's raining now. Reality is that weather is not on our side. Weather getting worse. Police harassment getting worse. Nationally, police are cracking down fiercely, particularly on expansions to new locations. We need to expand immediately — this Saturday — to build huge occupation at SCCC. Understands ongoing WG discussions. All of us here have great tactical minds, have been discussing it every day at Westlake. Is absolutely essential that as democratic body we not be paralyzed by decision until midweek for something we should start tonight. so we can have feet on the ground tomorrow at SCCC.
    • vote
      • time: 20:32
        • majority favors, proposal passes
      • blocks (2)
        • ? – Not blocking the fundamental principle of occupation, is blocking the proposal partially because of issues on CH due to noise and alcohol prevention. Would need to stop at a certain time to respect the neighbors.
        • ? – Concerned with lack of actionable plan. Main problem with proposal is that without Food, Tactical, Medical, or other work groups talked to to figure out logistics, this plan, even with good intentions, can burn and die. Let's table until tomorrow.
          • point of process: This does not raise issues of core principles.
            • Lacks actionable plan. Without such, is not complete plan.
          • point of process: note that of numerous GA's, blockers are male socialized folks and facilitators stick to point of process when dissent is expressed, but rarely otherwise.
          • point of process: should vote on block, not on proposal again
        • discussion
          • Regarding second block: Main concern is that we haven't given this time, and Tactics has not discussed. Was with Tactics today. They spent five hours discussing it. Can't say what they decided, but has spent 80 hours over last week working to make this occupation successful at SCCC. Nothing is guaranteed. Was just at City Hall last night; it's a nightmare; that's guaranteed. We must take risks.
          • Values opinion of those voting against. This idea has most support so far. If you think we need to move, even if you have questions about viability of location, if you put faith in workgroups, we'll need 4/5 support to stop standing in the rain.
          • Wisdom of general assembly will be followed, and work groups should follow lead of general assembly. If we decide to move to SCCC Saturday, WG's can start now to come up with actionable plan. GA should rule. People should rule.
          • If we were to vote to move to Oregon and told the workgroups tomorrow, they'd have problems. Wants us to move so we can stop discussing this, but wants plan first.
          • Perspective: Winter is coming. Opposition thinks that will end our occupation. Reminds us that in 1999 we were tear-gased and shot with rubber bullets for trying to occupy places in Seattle, but Central de La Rossa, Day star Center, and Central Area Motivation Center were abandoned buildings that people occupied. Wherever we go, if we occupy, this is civil disobedience. Will be pressured, will be harassed. Get used to it. Stay together long enough so that this will become national movement so that cities can act in unison. Imagine cities across the nation marching to Bank of America at the same time.
        • vote
          • time: 21:00
          • 89 for, 24 against. Blocked. Proposal fails.
            • In order to pass block, needed 4/5 majority, which is 80%. Rounding up, had 79%.
            • Had five independent counts. Proposers are invited to resubmit tomorrow.
  • proposal: Without a definite time for the move, relocate to Cal Anderson Park
    • rationale: This location offers many of the advantages of the previous motion (move to SCCC), plus one: With private institution such as SCCC, these places are not democratic. Ultimately, there is only one vote that counts: that of the institution's president. SCCC president is not on board. Would be easy for president to declare us trespassers and evict us. At Cal Anderson Park, would be in public space, without annoying detail of being evicted by university president.
    • discussion
      • ? – If you vote no, spend the night here. While you're voting and proposing, he's freezing his ass off, and wants to sleep in a tent.
      • ? – Proposer raised concern that SCCC president is not on our side. This is political movement. Establishment of city, country, or any college, will not be on our side, but that's not our goal. We're an occupation, not a camping group. Clear tactical advantage of SCCC over Cal Anderson is that we have support of students, faculty, and staff. Cal Anderson Park is potential location for overflow or joined with SCCC.
        • There is no president of the park so we can not be so co-opted as with where we need support of president.
      • ? – Correct, no president of park. But is mayor, same mayor who sent police to us. He'll send them to Cal Anderson. Have no illusions about the president of SCCC, is getting pressure from students, faculty. This is related to the proposal because case was built in relation to last proposal more than in relation to Westlake.
      • ? – Impetus for mayor's actions here are different than they would be on Capitol Hill. We do not have the support of this neighborhood. They hate us here. That's why they are calling City Hall and demanding that the Mayor get rid of us. Capitol Hill likes us. We will not experience same conditions there as here.
      • Vince – Feels that there is much speculation about how mayor thinks. We'd be trading one park for anther and creating a mud field. Has proposer investigated possibility of permits?
        • response: No. We need to coordinate this properly rather than rushing willy-nilly anywhere. Wants time to prepare our move. Would like eventual destination to be Cal Anderson Park.
      • ? – Is student at SCCC. Is one of 99%. Students there fighting tuition hikes, cuts in transportation. Will we support students or leave to go to Cal Anderson.
      • point of process – Previous speaker introduced herself as time keeper. One of the hardest parts about being part of facilitation team is withholding from participation during the GA.
        • she was replaced, didn't know she'd be excluded from participation
      • Is it so difficult for students at SCCC to cross Broadway to Cal Anderson? Is distance so great that they cannot manage to land at the park? Thinks not.
      • Cal Anderson Park is a water main for Capitol Hill [note: it's a covered reservoir]. City is unlikely to allow camping there under any circumstances.
      • Katelyn – Permit or no permit is not the issue. We don't need a permit. Reasons we blocked and reason didn't pass move to SCCC were not changed or addressed by proposing we move to Cal Anderson.
        • proposer: Devised proposal before learning of proposal to move to SCCC. Some of language matches because previous proposal was fresh in his mind.
      • point of process – Concerned that we are so few as not to be representative. Suggests proposer table proposal.
        • proposer: Will table. Suggests we exhaust remainder of alloted time to discussion, then table.
      • ? – Two weeks ago, considered Cal Anderson Park, and thinks it's a bitchin' idea. Does some things we don't want, though. Solidifies us in people's minds as white movement, not for people of color.
        • proposer: There, would be closer to Central District, with large diversity. It's within walking distance of Cal Anderson Park. Westlake Park is not.
      • ? – Last week, his grandfather offered his house for sleepy, sick, or tired people who have been here a long time. If you're in that condition, please go with him to grandfather's house.
      • ? – City has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars upgrading facilities there. This presents problems.
        • proposer: Amongst those facilities are restrooms that are pleasant and rather pleasant
          • proposer: There, would be closer to Central District, with large diversity. It's within walking distance of Cal Anderson Park. Westlake Park is not.
      • ? – Last week, his grandfather offered his house for sleepy, sick, or tired people who have been here a long time. If you're in that condition, please go with him to grandfather's house.
      • ? – City has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars upgrading facilities there. This presents problems.
        • proposer: Amongst those facilities are restrooms that are permanent and rather pleasant. More restrooms are available by taking the sidewalk to a nearby bar. Mall at Westlake closes at 10pm. Porta-potties are gone. Facilities at Cal Anderson park are argument for moving there.
      • ? – Buy Nothing Day (day after Thanksgiving) as well as Christmas is coming soon. Keep this in mind.
      • ? – Constitutionally, we do not need a permit to assemble in public and express our views. When someone makes proposal and brings up issue of permit, we should tackle this. Mayor's political position, not understand Constitutional law, is unacceptable. Considering proposal to recall elected officials to be removed from office for not respecting Constitutional law.
        • proposer: Washington is not California. Not legal to recall elected officials in this state yet. May need ballot issue.
        • proposer: He didn't bring up permit. It's not in his proposal, precisely because this is an occupation. SCCC is private property. Owner has right to toss us. Not so in public place. No right of public assembly on private property.
      • ? – Has not slept at Westlake, but last she checked, occupying is not about sleeping. As a group, should get smart about occupying and make other plans for sleeping as needed. Talking about moving to anywhere has little to do with an occupation. Let's organize, share burden of occupying space, and focus on finding solutions to problems facing our nation instead of just facing problems of sleeping at Westlake.
        • proposer: Most visible sign of this movement are the tents. Call it a trademark. Can argue the philosophy of whether we should be sleeping in those tents. Central gist of this protest is sleeping in those tents.
      • Alvina – Regarding tents: Can get around this by wearing our tents as costumes. Need more fun.
    • proposal tabled

Announcements

  • Doc
    • Last insurgence was unsuccessful. Needs video. Needs communications. Please help.
  • Mark
    • Circulating petition that Mayor respect our First Amendment right to assemble and to protect ourselves while doing so.
      • See change.org "Hands off Seattle Protesters" http://www.change.org/petitions/mayor-of-seattle-hands-off-occupy-seattle-protesters
      • Demands that Mayor call off the cops and allow us to peacefully assemble here or elsewhere.
  • Cee
    • On second day here.
    • This is beautiful. Everyone gets chance to speak, and this is rare.
    • Has asthma, getting a cold.
    • People are smoking. They have a right to do so, but she has right to breathe and is having difficulty doing so because smoke drifts in.
    • Wants to be here long enough for the vote so she'll know where we're going.
    • She's here for the long haul.
    • Wants to know who's doing workshops. Willing to co-teach.
    • Has had civil disobedience training in past, but is rusty and needs to update skills.
    • Was WTO organizer. Attended Evergreen. They shut it down. Can do it again.
  • ?
    • Saturday's protest (October 29) is vital. Is national day of action. Let's take full advantage of that to get mass turnout this weekend at noon. Suggests this go up urgently on website and Facebook page. Let's build support and get thousands here.
  • ?
    • People at City Hall Plaza request support, particularly between 10pm and 3am. If able to wander down to City Hall Plaza, they'd love to see you. Have restrooms and hot water.
  • ? with IBAW
    • IBAW has campaign in support of victims of sexual trauma and PTSD, to empower them to refuse re-deployment and to receive quality care.
  • ?
    • Local AFL-CIO has endorsed petition, sending out to affiliates for signatures
    • No matter where we are, Mayor can sick cops on us.
  • ?
    • Lots of good discussion and conflict at GA. Difficult to have them at this venue. Talking to people about doing day of visioning Saturday so we can discuss different visions of what this can be. Idea: send out communications to solicit submissions of papers with ideas, paper them all over Westlake, then come down and sit by them and talk to people. Meet by hot dog stand after GA.
  • ?
    • If our movement is successful, everyone here will have needs. Please bring demands that are important to you.

Adjourned 21:49

General Assembly notes 10/22

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-22 18:40
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-22

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Jacob
  • Taking stack: Vince and Babylonia
  • Orientation: Daniel

Working group announcements

time: 18:52

Steering Committee

  • Russ
    • was there from 5:30 until a bit after 6:00, nobody brought agenda items
    • facilitator note: we voted a few days ago not to have proposals, constrain GA mostly to discussion

Outreach Working Group

  • Salvador
    • idea: go to South Center to tell people what's going on here

Media Working Group

  • Aliana
    • Are eyes and ears of the movement
    • Have many people on WG, need more
    • Particularly need ground support

Fundraising Working Group

  • Fred
    • We have signs
      • First batch was expensive, but profits will generate profits and drive prices down
      • Need to sell them to ourselves and others

Logistics Working Group

  • Doc
    • still doesn't have working phone
    • march went well
    • If you can risk arrest, Logistics can use you. Please help.

Accountability Working Group

  • Hudson
    • Meeting tomorrow 4:30 outside of Sephora
      • to develop procedures for holding ourselves accountable to the community
      • come if you're interested in conflict de-escalation, anti-oppression, etc.

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • Daniel
    • Non-profits have an industrial complex in this country
    • Some people on executive boards make six-figure salaries, are treated like politicians by the fat cats
      • beware of potential for them to co-opt our movement
    • People living on the street have learned techniques for staying healthy. Talk to them

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach
    • For their safety, WG no longer wearing arm bands
    • Continue to work on intergroup communication
    • Have schedule to ensure someone is always here
    • Mega-meeting tomorrow noon-4pm
    • Mass-mobilization workshop tomorrow 4pm
    • Planning action for November 5 National Day of Divestment
      • Keeping quiet to avoid screwing it up
      • Needs to talk to media and outreach in next week
    • State workers union donated $500

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • ?
    • Need donations of metal spoons so we can re-use them and limit our waste
    • Please try to re-use disposable utensils, bowls, cups
    • Hoping to get bicycle generator
    • Meeting 5:30 tomorrow by Romax to talk about sustainability

People of Color Caucus

  • Alana
    • Stands in solidarity with People of Color Caucus
    • White people like her stole this land 200 years ago
      • Should be humble
      • Now is time to heal
    • If you're ready to de-colonize, un-occupy, and collectively heal, help spread awareness

Night of 1000 Actions

  • Joanna
    • idea: on Black Friday, day after Thanksgiving, do something in the middle of the day to peacefully and creatively interrupt the shopping frenzy, followed by big celebration demonstrating joy we can experience for free.
    • contact: joanna_8689 –AT– yahoo.com
    • meeting Monday afternoon at 5:30 by hot dog stand
    • discussion:
      • Suggests focus on the holiday and its significance to this country
      • Likes idea of pattern interrupt on a day like that, but suggests we keep it really positive and fun for the shoppers, so we spread goodwill and not ill-will.
        • response: Possibility: coordinate flash mobs to go into big stores, not locally owned businesses, and have some song and dance to wake people up to idea that shopping doesn't make them happy.
      • Remember that not all local businesses are good businesses.
        • response: Would like help compiling list and showing why big businesses should not be supported
  • Braden and Patricia
    • idea: Make an origami tent for every home that has been foreclosed upon during the Great Recession. Takes about two minutes each to build them
    • Meet tomorrow 11:00 by Romax sign
    • Since 2008, millions of homes have been foreclosed upon. SPD will not allow us to sleep in tents here. Need to find way to communicate ideas of this movement to people all around us.
    • discussion:
      • How to do sustainably
        • They're made of newsprint, can be recycled
      • How to deal with wind?
        • Will attach with thread.
  • Alex
    • idea: PVC arm cuffs when there's a line of resistance.
    • contact: SeeSpikeRun –AT– msn.com
    • discussion
      • What are these?
        • PVC pipe, chain inside, people hold, requires Jaws of Life and lots of time to remove them
      • Are people connected?
        • Optional
  • Josh

    • idea: Occupy foreclosure auctions every week until there is a moratorium on foreclosures and banks are forced to do what's right.
    • Meet at 600 1st Ave (1st & Yesler) Fridays at 9:30am
    • jbwatler –AT– gmail.com
  • ?

    • idea: Halloween party for kids at Westlake Park on 29th
  • Katia
    • idea: Publishing zine with stories
    • contact: ruckuss.among.us.zine –AT– gmail.com
    • publishes
  • ?
    • idea: everyone read Sun Su's Art of War
  • ?
    • idea: "Operation smoke" Whenever you take your smoke break, do it at Chase and Bank of America. You'll find friends there. Open the doors for them.
  • Liam
    • idea: Bank occupations. Go in, occupy, refuse to go. This is, obviously, civil disobedience, and illegal. This can pull us together.
    • discussion
      • get in touch with the PVC pipe guy
        • response: was thinking the same thing when cuff idea was proposed
  • Elvina
    • idea: Someone make her Disney princess tent into a mobile structure she can wear
    • idea: Surround banks with crime scene tape and conduct citizens arrests. Do this often.
  • Andrew
    • idea: start politics working group to identify targets of direct actions (will not get involved with them)
      • contact: bartkusa –AT– gmail.com
      • needs nerds who are sitting at home reading the Internet, pissed-off grannies, etc., to help collect information and bring it back
      • people pushing hard
      • discussion
        • Please make available on the Web
        • Suggest looking at options for foreclosed houses?
          • No, others seem to be on top of that.
    • idea: Study other movements that have succeeded. (e.g. General Strike in Seattle)
      • will hold a class to learn, not just teach, Tuesday evening around 6pm
      • discussion
        • remember we started Labor Cuacus last week. Contact ZachPattin –AT– gmail.com
  • Babylonia
    • idea: Organize a march on Wall Street (in Belltown). Dress up on most corporate looking clothes, carry signs citing statistics about corporations exploiting workers and the envirionment. Ex: "I'm a Hershey's CEO and I get my beans from children in XXX"
      • meeting tomorrow 6pm in front of Nordstrom, 206-504-0145
      • discussion
        • What should signs look like?
          • cardboard and a stick
        • Let's be as inclusive as possible.
        • Use care to verify claims on signs. Do not slander.
  • Jason
    • idea: E-mail congressional representatives and tell them to nationalize the Federal Reserve system
      • not many people on these streets care about what we're doing
  • Dino
    • idea: Everybody bring more people to our events. Call everyone you know, and you'll be surprised at the response.
  • ?
    • idea: Occu-pie picnic tomorrow afternoon. She and friends are baking pies. Bake some and join.
  • ?
    • idea: Organize outreach campaign supporting SJM 8007-211-12, which would strip corporations of personhood.
    • contact: VinceInch –AT– gmail.com
  • ?
    • idea: do something for November 2 visit by CEO of Chase at Sheraton
    • discussion
      • everyone in Seattle with bank accounts at big banks should close those
      • BECU welcomes this and wants to give those people accounts right away
      • bring debit cards back here and shred them
      • take those and place them on doorsteps of banks
  • ?
    • idea: celebrate holidays here
  • ?
    • idea: go to street side, ask people to honk in support
      • discussion
        • We're good neighbors and don't encouraging honking after 10pm
  • Gabriel Imecca
    • idea: engage organized labor movement in this country
  • ?
    • idea: Send ambassadors around the city to tell people what we're about.

announcement

  • time: 20:09
  • City Hall has kicked camp to the curb. Legal told our people to come back here. Seeking vehicles for transportation.
    • that's incorrect
  • City Hall volunteers do not want to staff the facility at City Hall any longer due to lack of support from crowd who stays at Westlake.
    • Volunteers feel that homeless people coming and going from the shelter there, who are not associated with our movement, are causing them hassle, stealing things
    • Police say they won't help, we need to deal with this ourselves
  • Need volunteers to take care of things for the evening so we can discuss tomorrow at GA.

Adjourned 20:38

General Assembly notes 10/21

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-21 18:35
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: (available following day) http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-21

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Michael, then Jake
  • Time keeper: Mike
  • Taking stack: Angie
  • Agenda: Russ

Campers

  • Shane
    • spent the night (kind of; left at 6:30 a.m.)
    • at about 2:30 – 3:15 the police turned off their lights
      • about 10pm nightly, they turn on lights to keep us awake
      • Reason? Maybe we won, maybe they got tired.
    • Other camper asked him to relay:
      • We have limited supplies
      • Getting outside donations, but depending mostly on generosity of the many
      • Some people are unclear about supply tent policies
        • Would be good for supply people to make it more clear what supplies are there for.
        • Some have opinion that they're kept there for an elite.
  • Rob
    • Returned this afternoon from Occupy Olympia
    • They're on fifth day
    • Happy to be back
  • Scott
    • Check
  • ? (wants to remain anonymous)
    • Here on behalf of humanity
    • Heard that Occupy Wall Street wants us to embrace some new world order
    • We're here to fight against totalitarian entity hell-bent on enslaving humanity
  • Danny
    • Lost his voice last night
    • Fourth night sleeping outside in cold without a blanket on the pavement
    • Has pneumonia, is very weak, feels sick
    • Is staying.
  • ?
    • Spent night in jail
    • Happy to do so because she was not afraid, and was able to clog up the system
    • Staying tonight, invites others to join
  • ?
    • Forming a non-movement caucus to discuss what an occupation is and how we can build a movement
  • ?
    • Just got out of the hospital for pneumonia and bronchitis
    • All need to stick together
  • ?
    • Originally came here with no idea what this was
    • Though some ideas seem extreme, agrees with general message, supports what's happening here
  • ?
    • Can we get funds for projects (e.g., outreach with fliers)
      • response: Outreach are working on flyers; will present for approval
  • Monica
    • First time here, but has been following on Internet
    • Brought food, blankets, socks, gloves, water, and encouragement

Working group announcements

  • time: 19:00

Steering Committee

  • Russ
    • came up with agenda; if you're not on it and wanted to be, understand that we have a very full agenda

Outreach Working Group

  • Andy
    • Sunday: Ballard Farmers Market
    • cafe meet and greet Fuel Coffee
    • need info re: connection between money and political system
      • send to OccupySeattleORD@gmail.com

Legal Working Group

  • Braydon
    • Have two options with regard to getting a bank account
      • Create Occupy Seattle entity
        • many sub-options here
      • Associate with existing organization
        • Occupy Wall Street did this
    • Legal is researching these options, will confer with lawyers, come back with proposal in three or four days

Tactical Working Group

  • Peter
    • Tactical, Outreach, Legal, Supply and others have rigorously explored and researched alternate locations to expand our occupancy
      • include privately-owned public locations, city-owned, and privately-owned community organizations
      • Please go speak to them if you have input

Morale Working Group

  • Mina
    • starting new group
    • dedicated to raising positivity and making people happy
    • will organize fun activities, work with other groups such as Information and Outreach
    • meet Saturday around noon outside of See's Candy
      • needs people with lots of energy and positivity who are dedicated
      • wearing stars

Supply and Storage

  • Alyssa
    • still has our money
    • have hot water in Westlake: 155 degrees
      • need marine batteries
        • ICT needs them also

Medical Working Group

  • Alyssa
    • workshops on Saturday and Sunday to keep us happy and healthy; see website for schedule

Media Working Group

  • Mark
    • Was reporter before he joined the occupation
    • May lose his job
      • Producer for NPR has already been fired for that reason
    • So far, occupation in Seattle has been very effective, non-violent, movement for change
    • Have had struggles with Mayor and Police Department, but should keep in mind that in the larger picture, small struggles within our group and with the authorities are small potatoes compared to suffering of other people on the planet.
      • We're here for people everywhere who are suffering everywhere
    • We've successfully occupied Westlake Park
    • Need to build numbers to build and be powerful

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • ?
    • Decision a few nights ago to cut off all police involvement has changed the game
    • Encourages people to respect decision. Please don't talk to cops, yell at them, work with them. Any is danger to our safety.
      • Puts large responsibility on Peace and Safety
      • Needs people to stay here or at City Hall Plaza for hours
    • Meeting tonight at Peace Tree (third tree from Pine Street)
    • Last night's meeting was cancelled.

People of Color Caucus

  • Maria
    • Not extremists, not here to separate the movement
    • This Saturday, rally at noon, march and rally at 2pm
    • Don't blame people at third and Pike for problems
    • Need to figure out how to include all communities

?

  • Nathan
    • heads Peace and Security at City Hall Plaza
    • Don't have work groups there because leaders here don't want duplicate groups
    • Lots of people
    • Seeks contact from Work group leaders 206-876-0067, OccupySeattleAtCityHall@gmail.com

?

  • Michal Dare
    • from City Hall Plaza
    • Now sleeping there
    • had become primary facilitator there
    • If you want good nights sleep with restrooms, running water, dozens of electrical outlets, police-free environment, place to leave your stuff and find it when you return, and no bongos, join him, then come back here.

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Stian
    • Have had a few problems with main website because main webmaster is hard to reach
    • Have set up support site at OccupyWA.org
      • Does not mean we're getting rid of OccupySeattle.org
    • Until things are set up:
      • If you have calendar event, send to OccupySeattleICT@gmail.com
        • In the subject, put "calendar item"
        • In body:
          • Event title
          • Location
          • Exact date and time
          • Details
    • Also working on mailing lists and email addresses
      • e.g., media@occupyseattle.org
      • Once we get this rolling, let us know and they'll help consolidate

Theatrical Working Group

  • Adam
    • 10pm tonight is first presentation, as soon as cop lights come on
    • also have 18×20" canvas board for hand puppets
    • have king size white sheet for full body improvisation
    • Anyone who wants to perform or watch, please do

Sanitation Working Group

  • Andrew
    • When you make a sign with paint, please wait for it to dry and keep it out of the rain
    • If you write on the ground, use chalk
    • Anyone thinking about or investigating places to relocate, please keep sanitation in mind
    • In Oakland, they picked a park with existing rat problem
    • Needs volunteers badly

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • Jacob
    • Considering reducing the number of decision-making GA's, working on proposals
      • please provide input
    • Reminder: we voted last night to suspend proposals at tomorrow's GA to accommodate discussion: "Night of 1000 Actions"
    • can reach at ProcessAndFacilitation@gmail.com
      • all documents are at http://forum.occupyseattle.org
    • Meet daily, 4:30pm near Romax on east side of park

Food Working Group

  • Ginger
    • working on things to make food better
    • visited by Health Dept, who had good suggestions about serving us better
      • want to comply
        • in the interest of avoiding making people sick
    • needs help finding community and commercial licensed kitchens
      • don't suggest them, organize them
    • email OSFoodGroup@gmail.com
    • see http://forum.occupyseattle.org for more information
    • needs people to help with logistics
    • Wants to start campaign for restaurants who want to put up banners that say they support Occupy Seattle
      • could receive donations, then feed us on-site
    • Also wants help with outreach, organizing flash picnics
      • You and friends make lots of food, come down here, get to know people you haven't previously met

Arts and Entertainment Working Group

  • Organizing Occupy Halloween
    • hello corporate zombies, blood sucking bankers, sweatshop stiffs
    • Halloween weekend, Saturday from noon until 10pm
      • family-friendly costume extravaganza
      • costume competitions from noon until 6pm for children of all ages
    • Need food and musical acts

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • ?
    • if you have reusable cup, utensils, bowls, please bring
    • please reuse disposable items
    • nightly at 9pm, sort garbage, recycling, compost
    • would like to have bicycle generator

?

  • Jess from We are Change Seattle
    • concerning police brutality march tomorrow
      • have reason to believe good possibility that there will be agents inserted, intending to make violence and sideline
    • He and friend will document the march to ensure no violence is committed by agents who are not part of the protest
    • Keep eyes peeled for anything out-of-the-ordinary
    • Will not be silenced by those who attempt to make protest violent

Logistics Working Group

  • Doc
    • We're really tired because we've been working so hard
    • Needs help during the march tomorrow
    • We are setting global precedent
    • Needs help in Logistics because they will help keep march peaceful
    • Have contingency plans
      • When violent act starts, peaceful people will sit down, point, and say, "we're not a part of that; we're a peaceful group"
    • If you liked the march last Saturday, please help him soon

Outreach Working Group

  • Jamie
    • Today was free t-shirt day
    • have cool stencil
    • Bring shirts to Outreach at 4pm

Media

  • Aliana
    • November 2: CEO of Chase will be speaking at Sheraton
    • will relay information tomorrow and every day after
    • should have presence that day at Sheraton

Proposals

  • proposal: Have a facilitated assembly during the day for general discussion of topics for which minutes will be kept.
    • presenter: Jacob
    • source: Process and Facilitation
    • rationale: There are many people who wish to participate but cannot attend general assembly. They would like their voices heard. We would like to give them a space. When you walk by Westlake on days other than Saturday, we'd like people to see this going on, and wonder, "What is this? How can we be part?"
    • vote
      • time: 19:48
      • proposal passes
  • proposal: Open a club account — not a business account — at BECU tomorrow using federal tax ID Corey registered for Occupy Seattle today (unincorporated political association for banking purposes only).
    • restated: Open a club account with BECU as an unincorporated political association.
    • presenter: Corey
    • source: Corey
    • rationale: Will allow us to keep track of our money. Would have no bearing on our status as a legal entity. Registration for tax ID has not bearing on our future ability to incorporate as any other type of organization.
    • discussion:
      • Who will manage?
        • Corey: Not him, since he proposed it.
      • Since we decided not to work with police, what will happen if someone becomes signatory to the account and steals from us?
        • presenter: Think very hard about whom to nominate as signatories.
      • This is a much bigger conversation than we can have in one night. Despite the urgency to open an account. There are more creative ways to sustain the movement for the next week then to rush a decision that would have huge consequences on the whole Occupy Seattle movement. Finances are typically divisive. Spent a week at Occupy New York. Knows intimately how they're dealing with these issues, and it's difficult. Owe it to ourselves to have the integrity for due process.
        • presenter: Proposal would not require immediate relocation of our funds. Would not require immediate choice of who has access to the account, only put in place GA's approval of opening the account. Would allow us to establish Paypal account and accept funds, and to deposit checks in an emergency.
          • Still need process to figure out how to use them.
            • presenter: Would not be used until processes are voted on.
      • Is there a way to have the account only accessible when multiple people are at the bank? Like the "blow up the world" button?
        • presenter: Don't know. Good idea. Supports it.
        • If you're banking at BECU, can only take out money in person at Tukwilla or Everett. Other places, can only do it with ATM Card. BECU down the street does not have cash on hand.
      • Check references of people. Consider other credit unions.
        • presenter: Chose them because they've given us $25 for every person who divested their account and opened with them.
      • Money is power. Unaccounted-for money has caused many of the advertising concerns that plague our political system. We need to have those processes in place before we begin accepting donations from Paypal.
        • presenter: Will only be able to accept Paypal donations about three to four business days after the account opens. Can have our system in place before that's ready.
      • Is a tax auditor at Dept of Revenue, has BA in accounting. We need separation of duties. Person who does bookkeeping cannot have signing authority. Person who makes deposits will not be bookkeeper. Separate it so nobody can steal money. Need someone to audit the accounts monthly to ensure books jibe with bank accounts. That person should not be the bookkeeper. Is willing to audit the books if people want him to.
        • presenter: Auditor should audit weekly to keep tighter reigns.
      • Stian: Has been here since day one. We've had this discussion before. It doesn't go anywhere because we keep tabling it. We need to move forward. Let's not table it again.
      • Russ: We have a system in place for people to get involved. Legal has taken on Finance. If you're concerned, join.
        • presenter: Legal has not taken on finance, it keeps coming to us because we have no process. Let's do something soon to avoid questions of where the money is.
      • Before we have Paypal account, should think about Mastercard and Visa, whether we should do business with them. Should have discussion about whom to bank with.
        • presenter: Most people here do business with big businesses (mobile phone, credit card, etc.) Although we may be supporting a big business like Paypal, it helps us more to use them than it helps them to have us.
      • Jacob: Need to understand what the current system is like. It's a few people and a lock box. This is more concerning than a credit union. It sounds like we have at least one person who is willing to start financial workgroup to provide oversight and assuage our concerns.
      • Are we going to get physical copies of an auditor's report? How will he know what's going on with donated money?
        • presenter: Suggests auditor hand out physical reports, though printing too much paper is a concern. Suggests daily update on current balance of account.
      • Suggestion: In response to signatures and since withdrawals can only happen two places. Each person could "own" one digit of the PIN.
      • Braydon at Legal: Warns everyone who would be signatory that they could have personal liability for any lawsuit filed against the protest.
    • vote
      • time: 20:18
      • block
        • This is a can of worms that cannot be voted on in a general assembly like this. It is counter to the process of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Appropriate process is to form a Finance Working Group. They can meet quickly and bring proposal to the GA. Should be considered for more than a moment. Trajectory: Four days. It is reasonable to do this. Need to respect the process that is world-wide and not being reflected authentically here in Seattle. This is something everyone needs to feel good about, because what we represent is a new way to feel good about commerce, and we can do that.
        • discussion:
          • Issue that we have not thought this through might be misrepresented by only attending this conversation. Issue that we have not had process is misrepresented. How they do it in New York is irrelevant. We have proposal that was brought forward by a person. If we had a WG, it would come to us from a different person. It's well-thought, well-argued. Let's move.
          • We are non-hierarchical, and are in no way bound by what people in New York do.
          • Alyssa, Supply: Man who spoke earlier is more right than he knows. Has been in many of those discussions because Supply needs to buy stuff. Has been lots of discuss in Legal and Fundraising. Need to do something now. Can change it later.
          • From New York. Has friends at Ducatti Park. Doesn't care what they do there. This is ad-hoc. If it doesn't work, we can change it. If someone steals the money, I feel bad for them and the ditch they find themselves in.
        • vote
          • time: 20:28
          • count: 106 fore, 1 against
          • block overturned, proposal passes
  • proposal: Write a musical with trust that Theatrical will be true to the movement. They will take testimony from all groups, request artistic license to be drafter in next two weeks, edited the week thereafter, then performed by collective.
    • proposer: Shane
    • source: Theatrical
    • vote:
      • time: 20:33
  • proposal: Repeal the cop-free zone proposal that was passed on October 19.
    • rationale: states no police interaction, will be cop-free zone to best of our abilities. As man of color, favors sentiment. If police presence is deal breaker, then invites new, more specific proposal. Language can be easily heard as anti-cop. When someone hears that we do not talk to cops and we are cop-free-zone, will hear "anti-cop". If we're viewed as anti-cop, will not get support, but will lose it. Need more numbers. People are cold and tired. Need more people. Language is too vague, is dangerous. When you see a school teacher talking to a cop during. Encourages proposer to re-submit proposal with more specific language that will not be dangerously interpreted to go against principles of movement.
    • point of process: Proposal was made, much came from proposer, need to hear from general population. Respect the stack.
    • discussion:
      • Aliana, Media: Been here since day one. Upon passage of proposal, entire media committee struggled to understand the wording. Spent all day yesterday and last night trying to put a positive spin on that decision that was approved by supermajority. Believes as an individual that the proposal passed by supermajority and should not be voted on. Media WG came up with positive spin on wording, so if they're asked, they have several great responses.
      • Maria, member of PoC Caucus: It would be detrimental to re-vote on something that took us hours. Should move forward with finding way to achieve accountability internally. Police have harassed us, taken away her supplies, harassed her. Should not re-vote on issues supermajority has decided on.
      • Agrees with Maria's sentiment, but we don't have procedure for that. We've allowed people to make proposals that contradict previous ones.
      • Proposal the proposer read simply stated that to the best of our ability we would make Occupy Seattle a cop-free zone. Other statements about not talking to the cops came from proposer as being part of discussion. The proposer made point that to expand our numbers, we need to reverse the supermajority decision. If we are to expand our numbers and our cultural significance, we must embrace the interests of people of color
      • Police department here is still under investigation by the federal government. For those of you who are into the law and order thing, consider that we're awaiting a verdict.
      • Many people of color are not represented all across the country because they are institutionalized in jail. Tomorrow, we're marching against police brutality. Before the day we do this, we're going to repeal the no-police zone? People of color, still underrepresented in this movement, will not come if you're shaking hands with someone wearing a badge. In San Diego, PoC people walked out. He's in communication with them.
      • Russ: Apologizes for speaking out of turn earlier. Every person here, by his estimation, represents between 10 and 60 people. Some of them are online. They communicate with him and other people in the working groups. What they're hearing: why pass proposal we can't enforce? We are independent. Why have policy telling us what we can and cannot do? Makes us look like fools. With due to respect to people of color, who have real issues with persons of authority, please come up with proposal that is not dividing the group.
      • Supports the proposal from the PoC Caucus. Supports autonomy. Thinks proposal was to come up with basic underlying structures for our behavior. That's as yet undefined. Feels fear from people coming out as attempts to control. Should instead try to understand each other and respect each other's autonomy.
      • Thinks that we should consider the other proposal that passed with majority, under anti-oppression and accountability that says we won't call cops unless we're in imminent danger. Instead of revoking the previous proposal, let's have a group XXX
      • Not a moderate, but in this case, is. Has been here a couple weekends. Not an anarchist, not a socialist. Wants to keep in solidarity with everyone: grandparents, parents, people of colors, while people who have been here since the 1600s. Likes cops. They don't make him afraid. In the interest of safety, best way to interact with them is, "Yes, officer," "No, officer," or "I would like to speak with a lawyer before I talk to you." This is not radical or socialist. It is in the Constitution. A cop-free zone is a bad messaging issue.
      • Not interested in alienating the same police force who have kicked and beaten people here. More interested in addressing all the bad things police have done to people. If there's a grandmother in Lake Forest Park, but only if those kids will settle down, I don't care bout here.
      • Since coming here, has learned much from anarchist friends, learned to respect the idea of autonomy. Proposal bothered him because it read like legislation. Troubled by question of where to go from here. We don't have a judicial system. Don't have police. Favors this proposal, at least until we come up with better wording.
      • Hearing this argument day in and day out is annoying. Stands in complete solidarity with the People of Color Caucus. People need to open their minds. Some people have been able to say, "yes officer, no officer, I want to talk to my lawyer," but he has not. The people are not the badge. Stand against the badge. When they tear the badge off, he'll stand with them. Until then, doesn't want to hear this discussion any more. Wants to hear discussion about community. Cannot build that here when we have GA's with people coming in randomly, not living in the communal group, not learning from the group they've been so separated from.
    • vote
      • time: 21:10
      • motion fails

Announcements

  • time: 21:13
  • Alvina: The war in Iraq will be ending in December. President Obama said all troops will be pulling out. Doesn't know specifics, but looks good.
  • Maria: Tomorrow is day of solidarity. Many people will be joining us. Hip Hop Occupies will join us from 12:00 – 12:30
  • Erin: Has been on livestream a lot. Are people there who are very vested in this movement. Have begun how to build unity, particularly after last night's GA. One idea is to have a potluck, people bring something they're proud of.
  • Tomorrow, someone from Occupy Portland will be here from 9:30 – 11:30 a.m., wants to talk with us, share ideas. Joanna is coordinating.
  • If anyone would like to meet after GA to discus how to establish system of checks and balances and keep an eye on our bank account, join him after GA.
  • Reminder: Need people to join Peace and Safety. Meet at Peace Tree after GA.
  • Police were created to enslave people who were trying to escape slavery.
  • Idea: This square is called Westlake. Westlake is a mall. Let's rename our park like they did in New York.
  • Just heard that war in Iraq is ending. We still have troops in Afghanistan; numbers have tripled since Obama took office. Is part of Iraq Veterans against the War. Please sign their pledge tomorrow.
  • Occupy Portland supports what is happening here, thanks us.
  • Was standing at south end of park when a proposal came up about how to interact with police. Coincidentally, fellow dressed a lot like him, but looked newer started mumbling to himself about the police. Walked over to talk to him, and when approached, pushed over and shouted racist slurs. Other people came, then the guy ran right into a group of police who heroically saved the day. Clear provocation, but we were not disrupted. The Stranger published letter today. People were passing things about negative attitude toward the police. Idea is that we're being manipulated. Tell everybody on livestream, everybody on the chat, on the forums, to get down here and check it out. Is this manipulation, or direct democracy? If they want to be heard, we're waiting for them.
  • Latest polls by corporate pollsters show majority of Americans support this movement. Support approaching 70%. Tea Party has 60% support for major demands. Within last 48 hours, Bank of America and Chase, who control 70 billion in investments have moved all those accounts into bank accounts supported by the FDIC. If they go bankrupt, the American taxpayers will be completely wiped out, because the FDIC only insures up to $250,000 per account. This is the way they shift their private bankruptcy to the public. Protester here last night filed complaint with police for selective enforcement of rules in the park. During the summer, hundreds of people lay out blankets in the park.
  • Lots of weekend warriors here. Please stay here overnight. Woman who wasn't doing anything wrong was carried off and nobody was there to record it.
  • Selective enforcement happened today, too. At 11:30, Sierra Club gave presentation, a good one. President of Sierra Club was given award recently. Parks Dept rep walked to MC, who had bullhorn, and asked if there was a permit. There was not. Parks said, okay, this time.
  • Exploitation is when a few deny the majority the right to be human.
  • We'll have discussion about whether to move. Consider that Seattle Central Community College is just eight blocks up the street. Last night, a woman was arrested here for sitting on a sleeping pad. We shouldn't stand for this. We need a buffer from police and city. College campus would be good, and SCCC is the best one for us. Lots of support there. Could spend this week building larger base of support. Idea is to have rally on Friday of students, faculty, and staff, then have tent raising ceremony, declare their campus occupied. We'll go up there to support, then Saturday, we take our tents up there and join them, have a speakout and a celebration. Build this movement with a safe location, and make this political again, instead of just basic survival. Occupy banks, corporate offices, union busting businesses. Carry out direct actions all over town. Scare city establishment. Send message to Wall Street.
  • Tonight around 6pm, watched someone get arrested for using chalk on the ground. Most ridiculous thing he's seen. Has seen police and city use increasingly stupid tactics over past few weeks. Through all that time, all the bad weather, we're still here, and he's proud of it. Congratulations to all of us.
  • If we have base camp at SCCC, would have to be at lawn and grassy area. Brick area is devoted to Sunday Farmers Market.

Adjourned 21:30

General Assembly notes 10/20

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-20 19:30
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-20

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Hudson
  • Taking stack: Michael
  • Time keeper: Jake
  • Orientation: Elvina
  • Agenda: Jacob

Campers

  • ?
    • 13th day here, spends quite a few nights
    • last night was particularly challenging, as not many people stayed
    • seems that Westlake Park is not a place we can occupy for sleeping long term
    • hopes to have a place we can have library, cafeteria, proper medical tent, can function as model society, and use Westlake as civic area during the day
  • ?
    • has been here 2.5 weeks
    • has been difficult at night
    • after 10:00pm the police go around, kick children, kick adults, and harass us
    • need people to be here after 10
    • don't need to go elsewhere
    • if we stay here, will show them that the masses stand against us
    • this is our land, our country
    • won't give in to tyranny
  • ?
    • rah, rah, rah, Westlake!
    • In Thursday's USA Today, headline reads, "Wall Street protest boil down to loss of opportunity, stagnant wages for middle class, economists say"
      • Thought, is it that simple?
      • Please think deeply about this
      • What has caused us to gather together?
      • Do we lack economic opportunity or something part of human experience?
      • Political climate or shift in collective consciousness?
      • Ready for new paradigm?
  • ?
    • Was very cold last night.
    • Tried to protect face with bandanna, but police officer kept trying to wake him up while he was fully awake, protecting himself from the cold.
    • Saturday's anti-police brutality protest:
      • anarchists are planning to smash-and-grab
      • please pay attention
      • let's be prepared to retreat if anything goes wrong
  • ?
    • Wants this movement to succeed, to reach this new paradigm some people speak of.
    • If you want something to change, must visualize what it will look like and start acting as if it's already true.
    • If we fight among ourselves, fight first symbol of authority we see, are missing the point.
    • Only love can defeat fear and anger
    • Cannot fight fear and anger with bigger fear and anger. Someone will alway shave bigger gun.
  • ?
    • Thinks we need to address hoarding greed at City Hall.
    • Brought a soda, was denied a cup.
    • People there accused Westlake of stealing food.
    • Friend was denied cookie though there are three large bags. They said it's only for volunteers.
    • If we cannot stop greed and hoarding among ourselves, how can we convince the 1% that they should.
  • Scott
    • Was asked to bring 18 years of management experience to City Hall to keep our permit.
    • Were threatening to revoke it Sunday night.
    • City Hall group did not call GA, Phil from ICT did.
    • Apologizes to those who think people there were trying to take control.
  • ?
    • Has been part of this movement since day one, coming in and out, sacrificing ability to work.
    • Finds it disturbing that people are willing to sacrifice our health and well being in the name of Westlake Park.
    • For a week straight, there were hypothermia cases nightly. People were getting things stolen. People were getting scabies.
    • This is important, but if we're all martyrs, who will carry on?
    • We can occupy multiple spaces.
    • Doesn't want to sacrifice for people who can't see the big picture.
    • This is Occupy Seattle. We can occupy every park.
  • David
    • Just came from Occupy Tacoma, across the corner from his office.
      • Small but strong group.
      • They send their love, say if anything they can do, call.
      • They're concerned about possible splintering here. If need help, call them.
  • ?
    • Has been here for 2.5 weeks. Has not slept here last two nights.
    • This park and these petty arguments that are lacking long-term logistical sense has been mentally draining.
    • At night, battling the police officers about warmth and closing eyes is driving him nuts.
    • Logistically speaking, this place is important during the day.
    • At night, and as a whole, what's really important is building a community, laying a cornerstone for future of humanity and our children.
    • Suggests we stop arguing about Westlake Park or City Hall. Neither will end up being central base for the movement.
  • Circus
    • Ryan Paulowski's ID card located.
  • Doc
    • Let us not forget that we are setting a precedent all over the world, together. Look what happened to Greece 36 hours ago. Trenton NJ, Athens Georgia.
  • Cameron
    • Has been here for two nights.
    • We're at war with the police, and we're at war with City Hall.
    • They want us out of here; that's all they want. To give it to them is defeat.
    • Should hold Westlake.
    • People have difficulty getting to SCCC, people don't understand it.
  • ?
    • Has been here past two weeks.
    • Was not here last two nights because she was sick.
    • In order to stay here, must be able to sleep.
    • Doesn't think SCCC is the solution, but can't stay here if we can't sleep.
  • ?
    • Stayed here one night.
    • No possibility of sleeping here.
    • Sleeping is not same as occupying.
    • When he stayed here, cops outnumbered us. They took food.
    • Agrees that we need facility where people can maintain their health.
    • Should have rotating groups willing to give cops hell all night.
  • ?
    • Stayed here a few nights.
      • Were only a few people here.
      • Cops winning, but people are strong.
      • Last night several people shared people from cops' lights.
    • Next Saturday will be big push with more tents.
    • If they take 150 tents, they better make 150 arrests.
  • ?
    • Just one more day. Day after, we're taking over.

Working group announcements

Supply and Storage

  • Alyssa
    • Many people are very concerned about where the money is.
      • It's in a safe.
        • Legal has the key.
    • Since we don't have a bank account, but many people got arrested, so we're banking with the bank of King County Jail. When people go to court, we'll get the money back.
    • Tomorrow, Legal will address GA about options regarding acquisition of tax ID.
      • So checks written to Occupy Seattle can be cashed.
      • Has check for $500 nobody can use until we decide how to get a tax ID.

Direct Action Working Group

  • Sallah
    • group of people met to take direct action
    • Based on New YOur
    • Occupy buses.
      • Test drove. Occupied, then handed out cards that look like ORCA cards, but say, NOPE.
    • Meeting 4:30pm Friday, near hot dog stand at north end of park

Fundraising Working Group

  • ?
    • Need help of vampire hunters — need wooden stakes.
    • In next few days, will have 100 yard signs that need stakes.
    • If we buy from store, costs money and kills trees.
    • If you are vampire hunter and like to save trees, get with it. If you're a vampire, steal the stakes.

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Andrew
    • Have been asking for help, and got it.
    • Got a bunch of people to email applications to help with website.
      • Can only help from home.
    • Still need more help.
    • Need people here to help determine how to communicate better.
    • Need people on-site to update Twitter, Facebook, etc.
    • If you're here and want to help, email OccupySeattleICT@gmail.com

Legal Working Group

  • Patricia
    • Introducing new legal volunteer Braydon
    • Even though there are not many Legal Team members on-site, receiving many lawyers who want to help support the cause and be part of long-term legal strategy.

Outreach Working Group

  • Derrick
    • Working on:
      • Neighborhood outreach program
        • Starting by hitting farmers markets to tell people what we're about
          • First will be Sunday at Ballard Farmers Market
      • Cafe meet and greet
    • Join daily at 4pm and after GA
    • Contact via email to OccupySeattleORD@gmail.com

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Cameron
    • Knowingly or unknowingly, proposals passed last night about our relationship with the police becoming nonexistent put an enormous weight on P&S.
    • Need more members. Are about three dedicated members now.
    • Meeting directly following GA at Peace Tree (third tree from Pine Street)

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • Joey
    • Many wonderful things we can do to exemplify sustainability
      • Bring own cups, utensils, and water bottles
      • Help with maintenance of washing stations
      • Donate bicycle power setup
    • email SustainableOS@gmail.com
  • Anastasia
    • is local organizer with Sierra Club
    • Sierra Club:
      • Is nation's largest and oldest grassroots environmental organization
      • Represent 1.5 million members nationwide, 25,000 in Washington
      • Has announced support of Occupy movement
    • Press event tomorrow
    • Next week, Sierra Club will help out and lead teach-ins about environmental and organizing skills

Tactical Working Group

  • Zach
    • WG is working on plans for November 5 National Day of Divestment
    • facilitating inter-team communication
    • Meets daily at 3pm and 9pm in front of Seattle's Best Coffee
    • Sunday from 12-4pm, meeting at Pacific Place to discuss process
    • Earlier announcement by someone who said he had authority of legal and tactical between two tents.
      • Not concerned with what he's doing, but neither Tactical or Legal has authorized that.

Animal Rights and Environmentalism Working Group

  • Betty
    • newly-started group
      • represents the 99% of earthlings that do not ever have a voice or a choice
    • Meet Saturday by See's Candy store at 1:30pm
      • will have table with information
      • will educate people about what corporations hide from everyone
    • Not only about what we eat but choices that we make when we buy things.

Sanitation Committee

  • Andrew
    • WG is two people
    • Loves seeing people spontaneously pick up brooms and start sweeping. You're all deputized.
      • Please bring them back to other side of information tent.
    • Needs volunteers.
    • Don't have to be here all week, maybe just take a day or two.
    • Needs one volunteer for very important issue:
      • Be here tomorrow to help get porta-potties
      • Andrew and Connor cannot help
      • Afternoon – "general afternoon" is as specific as we have
    • One member of Sanitation Crew left to form group Mobile Occupy
      • Has been traveling multiple Occupations in Pacific Northwest
      • will bring volunteers from Portland
    • To Seattle Police Department: the sleep deprivation is very effective

Logistics Working Group

  • Doc
    • Unknown fact that Logistics is here, because he's the only member
    • The reason we can't reach him is that his bag was stolen during the Monday arrest.
    • Please buy him a mobile phone and spaghetti.

Accountability Working Group

  • ?
    • Meeting tomorrow at 3:30pm at north end of park to formulate community accountability process to hold each other accountable for violations of the principles of our movement.
      • We voted for these on Sunday. See the website.
      • Others came from GA decisions over past few weeks.

Demands Working Group

  • Emily
    • Yesterday, said that during and after GA, will be collecting local demands
    • Will be happening again today. Please go let them know what we want.

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • Daniel
    • Five elements to hip-hop
      • MCing
      • DJing
      • beat boxing
      • B-boying
      • graffiti
    • send artists http://HipHopOccupies.com
    • meet after general assembly at hot dog stand
    • WG has experience promoting

Theatrical Working Group

  • Shane
    • Seek to gather people and perform, to entertain
    • Seeks contact from Arts and Entertainment Working Group

Steering Committee

  • Russ
    • there are lots of questions about how things work
    • doesn't always run smoothly, but they try
    • 5:30pm each day, meet by Romax on east side of park

Proposals

  • proposal: Saturday, proposals and voting suspended, replaced with open-ended discussion: Topic ideas and actions to move message of Occupy Seattle forward
    • presenter: ?
    • restated: Saturday night GA: replace proposal section with open-ended discussion of actions and ideas to bring forth the message of Occupy Seattle.
    • source: P&F
    • rationale: Are mindful that some people only able to attend on Saturday. Hope it will not be free of decisions, because ideas will fly and many will decide to do things. Out of this will come proposals for other nights.
    • vote
      • time: 20:50
  • proposal: Allow Media Committee to talk to police for reporting purposes
    • restated: Livestream reporters can talk to police for reporting purposes only, not to give them information, to help them, or anything like that, just to get them on record.
    • presenter: Ian, livestream reporter
    • rationale: We passed proposal that we shouldn't talk to police. Wants to abide by proposals we pass. Wants to get police on record for some of the things they do. Not so they can get buddy-buddy. Not giving them information; getting information from them. 5000 people watched them arrest Liam the other night.
    • discussion
      • Concern: What stops other groups from making same proposal (tactical, food, etc. Can all make excuses to talk to them.) Actions speak louder than words. Police are trained to give statements to justify their actions. People are watching, and can discern when things are f'd up.
      • Yesterday under awning, was filing a kerfluffel. Cop asked her to move out from under awning. Instinct was to ask her to repeat it, and to capture it on film. Wonders if that was in compliance with group decision.
      • Likes the idea of catching cops on film saying stupid things. Doesn't trust common sense of everyone who may find themselves on the media committee to do that in a way she likes. Thinks it's really important to film the police.
      • proposer: Everyone on livestream is working for us. Will only talk to police when it's duty to do so.
      • In a free society, freedom of the press is the most precious commodity. Livestream people are our free press. Cannot believe assembly is considering censoring our press. At times of war (not that we're at "war"), the press move through the battlefield and talks to both sides. You can turn on a TV and watch in Afghanistan every day. Don't censor our press.
      • Part time occupier, livestream reporter. Has child. Waits tables for the 1%. Many people he's speaking with are taken aback with the way we're treating the police. There is a group of occupiers who want to be here. Will talk to cops no matter what. Wants them to join us.
      • Has mixed feelings about talking to the police. Trying to overcome his fear of them. If something happens, don't need to shame them, but show the world.
      • Doesn't trust police until they break rank. Media and anyone else has right to talk to them. Gathering evidence is helpful. Should not go further than that.
    • vote
      • time: 21;09
      • strong majority
      • proposal passes
    • proposal: pass
  • proposal: adopt statement affirming decolonization of Seattle with indigenous people (read long statement via bullhorn)
    • restated: People of Color Caucus produced a document extending solidarity to indigenous people locally, nationally, and globally. Occupy Seattle supports this statement.
    • presenter: Christie
    • met with People of Color Caucus
      • having conversation about decolonization, how to make movement more inclusive to all groups
      • in solidarity with Boston and other cities, have drafted declaration of solidarity with indigenous people
    • clarifying question
      • statement included name change; is that separate?
        • yes
    • discussion
      • Allowing a group to divide us by race is bad.
      • This doesn't divide us; it unites us.
      • We are on native land. They lived here first. We need to honor that. We get to live here at a higher status. Need to make a statement to the community that is native that we want and need them here, and that we understand.
      • Matt: Fully supports proposal. There would be no one percent without colonialism. 1% got their money by stealing native land and spending it in ways that oppress us all. This proposal does not divide us; the U.S. border divides us from the rest of the 99% and from the rest of the working class. White people are a minority of the 99%, and we need to recognize that. This proposal is a step in that direction.
      • Grandmother was from Okanogen. Five tribes were there. They were divided by the border. Unsure of whether this proclamation includes her.
      • Is from global south. Maybe not included, but stands in solidarity.
      • Also is indigenous group – Bahamas
      • Language included seems to be religious. Unclear if we document says we respect or agree with the religion.
        • response: Document does not affiliate with any specific religion.
      • Phil: If this is draft, bring back a final and let's vote.
    • vote:
      • time: 21:44
        • solid majority
        • motion passes
  • proposal: change name from Occupy Seattle to something decided by temperature check
    • restated: In solidarity with indigenous people around the world, Occupy Seattle will change name to "Decolonize / Occupy Seattle"
    • source: People of Color Caucus
    • presenter: Christie
    • discussion:
      • The only way he'd vote for this is so that he could go and start and Occupy Seattle brand new. The people who feel that strongly about this might as well start their own group. Has been solidarity with Occupy Wall Street movement. Within it there has been many smaller, congruent movements. Didn't change the name for them, so why start now?
      • Very concerned. We don't have every single occupant here. We cannot, because we agreed, represent them because they cannot be here for whatever reason. If we're to change name, should consider at a time when people can be here.
        • response from proposer: Reason PoC Caucus thinks name needs to be added is that when people say Occupy Seattle, they think, "It already is occupied." This would let people around the world know this movement includes them.
      • White Eagle: Does not support this. Honors effort that went into it. Takes us off course, dilutes us. Big message is important. Don't need to be this sensitive.
      • Does not appreciate people telling her she doesn't belong here. Helped build the occupation. Nobody has right to tell her to get out. United States thrives on imperialism that oppresses 99% of the world. If you're serious about this movement, need to let people in Iraq, Afghanistan, parts of Africa know we do not stand with colonization of U.S. Government. Best way to do so is implementing this name change.
      • Apologizes for emotional outburst. The PoC of San Diego got up and walked out in solidarity during a GA about this same discussion. No one knows if they've rejoined the GA. People here, including he, make comments without thinking three times. This is a highly-emotional topic, especially in this area where gentrification is very, very, rampant.
      • Recognizes that word "occupy" has serious negative connotations among many people here and abroad. He stands in solidarity with those people and their struggles, but doesn't feel that changing our name is the best way to further that cause.
      • Has spent lots of time on Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. It's the poorest county in the United States of America. Most people, even the homeless in this encampment, cannot fathom the conditions in which people of Pine Ridge live. Is unbelievably sympathetic with Native American causes. Is part Jewish, and resents being called a white supremacist by someone trying to pose emotion as unity. We're all here because we're all marginalized. He works in a cubicle for the 1%. If his bosses knew he was here, speaking and being engaged. He resent being marginalized by people who think that because he work in a cubical all day, he has great life. Our name makes that clear.
      • Don't frame this as division of the movement. Suggests we set precedent with the forward movement in other cities.
      • We shouldn't do something just because other cities are doing it. Sympathizes with first nations but wants to understand if once we decolonize, will we still be working under patriarchal system? How does changing the race part solve the sex part that oppresses 50 percent of our community.
      • Need to take this one step at a time. Agrees with comment about sexism. With Occupation movement across the county, has been lots of bad politics. Have groups such as Neo-Nazis of America endorsing us. Must show by adding this name that we're being progressive and that it's bigger than just the banks.
      • Last proposal we passed spoke specifically to the issues of the taking of Native American land. This supports that as well as supporting idea that all people have been colonized, including the majority white workers who are the 99 percent. We've all been colonized.
      • Native women have been sterilized for the past 500 years, don't identify with Western feminism for that reason. Please don't misidentify women. Decolonization is a process. This represents decolonization of our movement. Wall Street was founded on colonization and slavery. To get to the root of this movement, let's call it from the beginning, decolonization, which acknowledges that history.
      • Casey: With respect to the People of Color Caucus, all indigenous people, and all people here tonight: he loves us. Doesn't believe this is needed now. Worded like we're trying to break down our colony at the mayor's office, trying to break down every little colony we have. Should keep things the way they are now and think about a good one.
      • Burning Man: Not his native name. Is of South American decent. This is street name. Is homeless. Doesn't matter what we identify as. We are human. Everyone here is human. Why don't we act like it and recognize that we're human? The word 99 percent includes every human in this group. Doesn't matter who you are for any reason. 99 percent occupy of any city: Occupy means to stay somewhere under force or peaceful. Occupy Seattle is a part of Occupy Wall Street. To Occupy Wall Street means to stay where we are. WS has occupied every city in economic ways. Every single human here is starting to sound like children on the playground. Stay together and get along.
      • Marlin: Supports name change. Heard lots of good points, lots of emotional points. Unity must be our primary concern. Has great love for everyone here. Have inspired him and millions around the world. Is a white man. Is not the best person to speak about issues of marginalization of people of color in first nations. It is his responsibility to do what he can, and to show people around the world, that we, as white colonial people, own responsibility for what we have done. By changing our name, we give credence to this, show the world that we acknowledge the responsibility. This can allow us to truly set a precedent. Can show that we can evolve and bring forth new understandings. Supports symbolic name change.
      • Akila: Is black. Is female. Is part of Information Work Group. Going to New York tomorrow morning. When goes to Liberty Plaza, wants to be representing Occupy Seattle. It's important to keep name as we're one of more than 1251 occupies around the world. Let's not change name, but vote and go home.
    • vote: 22:25
      • 43 favor, 60 oppose
  • point of process: (not a point of process) important political discussion. People need space to caucus with each other to process what just happened. We should adjourn and go home (or stay here) not because we're dissolving the movement or the general assembly, just because people need to support each other.
  • More discussion of proposal just passed
  • break for approximately 40 minutes

Adjourned 23:07

General Assembly notes 10/19

Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-19 18:28
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-19

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Jake
  • Agenda: Michael
  • Process mover:
  • Taking stack: Kristen
  • Time keeper: Danica

Campers

  • time: 18:42
  • TJ, tentmaster
    • needs
      • blankets
      • tarps
      • visqueen
  • ?
    • last night and for the previous few, cops turn on their lights
      • to combat, people stood in front of cars with blankets and space blankets
  • ?
    • first weekday night was last night
    • encourages those who haven't camped here on a weeknight to do so
  • ?
    • It has been cold, so be wise about where to stay
    • went to City Hall this morning. Was very split.
    • Need to occupy a big enough space so police don't squish us.

Working group announcements

  • time: 18:46

Steering Committee

  • Russ
    • having success, a bit disorganized, trying hard
    • request that proposals be submitted in writing with name
      • on whiteboard, or better, on paper
    • will try to get unsigned proposals into the GA, but hard to do so without a name
    • If your proposal is not mentioned, maybe you didn't follow the rules. Not ignoring you, just moving the process.

Media Working Group

  • Carson
    • yesterday, came up with several bullet points on how to keep your foot out of your mouth when speaking to the media:
      • If a reporter asks you a question, always pause, then think before you speak.
      • Do your best to kekp answers short on point and well-articulated
      • always assume wrords can be misconstrued
      • be very very careful about using word "we"
        • you speak only for yourself, don't rpesume to speak
      • if someone asks tricky question that you don't feel comfortable answering, can answer "no comment"
      • when speaking to media, keep in mind that everything you say reflects on all of us, even if you don't use the word "we"

Outreach Working Group

  • Andy
    • meet daily under Sephora sign at 4pm and after GA
    • if you're interested, go to the meetings, post on the forums
  • Ariana
    • new to Outreach and to speaking
    • will be compiling stories about us
    • please tell her your story and while you're here
  • Circus
    • on Friday, Outreach will be doing t-shirt day
    • please bring any t-shirts, old or new
    • if you have any messages for Occupy Olympia, send to OccupySeattleORD@gmail.com by tomorrow
      • Robert from Outreach will visit, take messages

Information Working Group

  • ?
    • make fabric armbands, duct tape is tiresome, wasteful
    • has notebooks for each WG; use them to pass information between each other
    • when you know when your meetings will be, come write them on the whiteboard

Legal Working Group

  • Corey
    • Legal will help people who are arrested for civil disobediance
    • Will not help if you are arrested for something that doesn't fall into that category, including
      • crime of violence
      • crime of narcotic use
      • crime of alcohol use in public place
    • have been problems with narcotic and alcool recently
    • use of mind altering substances create safety problem for us
    • is personally offended when someone overdoses, seeks help from medic, then says he or she is suffering from hypothermia
    • if you tell someone you are suffering from hypothermia but are overdosing, you put yourself at risk

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Maria
    • what: day of solidarity
    • when: this saturday
    • 12:00 p.m. rally
      • will be joined by El Comite, NAACP, United Indians of all Tribes
    • 2:00 p.m. will join national action against police brutality
    • ask everyone to stand in solidarity

Demands Working Group

  • Emily
    • tomorrow, will set up table after GA to take everyone's local demands
    • we don't want to make our own demands; we want to make our demands
    • please make your voices heard
    • meet daily at 4:00 p.m. next to See's Candy; look for the sign

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Danica
    • really want a 24/7 presence so we can update information as it happens
    • if interested, contact at OccupySeattleICT@gmail.com

Teatrical Occupy Seattle

  • Adam
    • newly-formed group
    • encourage people of all races, genders, etc.
    • need entertainment before people burn out
    • to join, meet by the stage after GA

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • ?
    • yesterday we asked for help with a washing station so people can bring their own silverwear, cups, bottles
    • someone dropped off a bunch of tubs
    • need help organizing so everyone can participate in sustainable practices
      • if you'd like to help, join later on east side of park
    • please bring your own utensils, water bottles, etc.
    • we'll sort garbage and recyclables at 9pm
  • ?
    • Sierra Club of Northwest endorses this movement
    • water jugs were donated for refill station
      • have daily pickup
      • information on the bottle. If empty, phone number on bottle
    • need silverwear donations
    • reuse your cups, utensils, even if they're disposable

Logistics Working Group

  • Doc
    • Did anyone listen to Doc's announcements last night?
    • Checked with the Mayor's Office for sixth time today.
      • Has appointment with Seattle Civil Rights Commission Director Julie Nelson
        • Tomorrow morning 7:30am
    • really needs help
    • There are flash mobs pending.

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • Anthony
    • working to bring a voice and entertainment to Occupy Seattle
    • for more information, see him and fellow members 9pm near hot dog stand at north end of Park

Action Announcements

  • facilitator: This will be chance to as for help with things you're working onj
  • Andrew, Sanitation
    • had three people, one is injured, one is out of town he hasn't slept for a long time
    • please join him
  • Russ, committee that helps form the agenda
    • has heard many times that people wonder how we come up with this agenda
    • process is: fill out piece of paper with idea, put name beside it, they look at it
    • he's the only person on that committee; if you don't like it, make group larger
    • meet every day at 4pm in front of Romax
    • If he can't make it, he'll leave a message with Information.
      • If need help, can get it from those who facilitate and guide the meeting.

Proposals

  • presenter: ?
    • proposal: Move our base camp to Seattle Central this Saturday when we have people here from the actions.
    • restated: This Saturday, after the two demonstrations, we march to Seattle Central Community College to set up new base camp, and maintain a daytime presence at Westlake through GA, work groups, actions, direct action, etc.
    • rationale:
      • This occupation has been beautiful, has been going on for over two weeks. People staying overnight are courageous, dealing with cold, cops, oppression. During the week, night time occupation is almost nonexistent. Has nothing to do with the will and result of those staying overnight or the power and prestige of this movement. When we've called for massive numbers of people when we ask.
      • There are hundreds or thousands of supporters there.
      • Members of the occupation are in student government there.
      • There's an Occupy student club there.
      • We can go build our numbers while maintaining presence at Westlake, then later maybe reoccupy Westlake.
      • There, we can avoid having our infrastructure destroyed nightly or weekly.
        • Allow us to more effectively demonstrate, perform outreach.
      • When we approach winter, we cannot continue an outdoor occupation.
      • There are buildings nearby that might be available for occupation.
    • (three minutes of discussion with people nearby)
    • discussion
      • ?
        • Should not move. This area was selected for its symbolism.
        • If you don't want to stay, recommit yourself.
        • Shit may hit the fan there or here, but it's better for it to happen here.
      • ?
        • responding to previous comment: it should be personal choice
          • Whatever GA decides, he'll do. Occupation is about more than what he thinks.
        • Has anyone spoken with SCCC about what is allowed?
          • He's from SCCC, organized walkout there, has been here from day one.
          • Administration has stated publicly that they will not welcome us.
          • Club is meeting tonight to devise method to change that.
            • possibilities being considered thus far:
              • Petition teachers, workers, students
              • Encourage student coordinating committee to hold actions of solidarity next week at campuses all over the city.
      • ?
        • Considering that we'll be lasting a while, need to avoid fear of freezing and remain a community.
      • ?
        • Is in complete agreement that we should have daytime occupation.
        • At last general assembly, someone suggested symbolic march between daytime and nighttime locations.
        • We are the 99%, and many of us have trouble spending the night here (cop harassment, bad location). Shouldn't alienate that group by preventing them from staying over.
      • ?
        • This park was paid for by taxpayer money so that Nordstrom can have a building to promote capitalism. That's a major theme across the country.
        • To move to SCCC, where Boeing, Amazon, Nordstrom have not presence
        • This park needs to be home.
      • ?
        • Fully supports proposal because the constant tension about whether we're staying here, what the cops are doing, how we're not getting any sleep, is distracting us from what we're here for.
        • Is here to get to know everyone, to educate herself about how this system screwed us up and is destroying our earth.
        • Wants to do direct action, demonstrate, have constant daytime presence here.
        • We need to sleep and be safe.
        • Let's build village there where it won't get torn down every night.
      • ?
        • Hasn't stayed the night, so won't tell people they should be willing to stay in cold.
        • Should consider fact or possibility that move to SCCC will be seen as and probably portrayed as a surrender.
          • proposer: That's why we should do it this Saturday when it's decidedly clear that we've defeated attacks by police and mayor.
            • On those weekends we are unmanageable because of our numbers. We can set up more tents or move then because we have the power then.
      • ?
        • Have no illusions that the SCCC admin will not try to boot us out.
          • I'm a student there. If they boot me out, I'll demand a refund.
        • We're under attack all the time here.
        • There, we'll have chance to politicize student body.
        • When stronger, should come back here for reasons previous speaker cited.
      • ?
        • Has noticed pattern that those who dislike the idea of street are unfamiliar though he sleeps here every night.
        • Has a few problems with SCCC.
          • It's on grass.
            • proposer: only partially
          • Sprinklers likely not to be turned of for us.
            • proposer: there are none, palates could resolve this.
          • Rain will cause drainage and mud problems.
      • ?
        • Will we be interrupting the important learning process happening at SCCC?
            *
      • ?
        • We are at war, fighting government and capitalism.
        • Must use war tactics against this corporate structure.
        • In war times, a direct occupation would occur, then the force would go to a safe place to coordinate multiple attacks.
          • It is wise to find this base camp, whether it's SCCC, Gasworks Park, Freeway Park
      • ?
        • Doesn't seem like there is any guarantee of safety anywhere.
          • So pick a spot and stand firm.
          • Think about space; SCCC doesn't have much available.
            • proposer: Cal Anderson Park is across the street for overflow, and campus crosses street
      • ?
        • This is not Occupy Westlake, it's Occupy Seattle
        • Applauds those who stay here. YOu are the soldiers.
        • Those of us who go home and work online are the engineers.
        • Zucotti Park in New York is open 24 hours/day.
        • It is illegal to be here after 10pm. That can be enforced.
        • Supports multiple locations so if attacked, will have somewhere to move.
      • ?
        • Concern with proposal is that there's strong support at SCCC.
        • There are lots of people near Westlake who do not support the movement.
        • Gives people who do not already support a chance to see us.
      • ?
        • Westlake Park is very well served by public transit than SCCC is.
        • On first day, group of us where here protesting Canadian Tar Sands.
        • Canadian Consulate is near.
        • Would like to stay here.
        • Would like all urban centers to provide places for people who do not pay $200 for a room
        • On first day, group of us where here protesting Canadian Tar Sands.
        • Canadian Consulate is near.
        • Would like to stay here.
        • Would like all urban centers to provide places for people who do not pay $200 for a room
      • ?
        • Agrees about Nordstroms. Wrote the flyer.
        • If we have secure base at SCCC, will have base for targeting Nordstroms, Bank of America, Chase, etc.
        • Could try to get the 49 line into a ride-free line to protest fee increases that came as a result of policies of the 1%
      • ?
        • SCCC and Cal Anderson Park are two blocks from the East Precinct, so not very secure.
      • facilitator: have many people on stack, have many proposals, saw at least 20 people indicating desire to vote
    • vote
      • time: 19:40
      • clear majority support
      • blocks:
        • facilitator: four blockers will take five minutes to discuss, then will present
        • blockers' statements:
          • No work groups were aware of this plan that would dismantle organized abilities to move this soon
          • Decision should be left open, but a binding GA vote at this time is impromptu
          • We should hold our ground.
          • On the board yesterday was written: No major votes would happen on a weekday.
          • Use your imagination and imagine what a motivated and well-funded opponent could do.
          • We can make plans. You can form your own group to move to a better location. Don't need
          • This is revolution.
          • Respects campers and people who've been here all along.
          • Is angry, is ready to fight.
          • Thank you for listening to a white male. Knows they're over-represented.
        • discussion of block:
          • ?
            • Tent is at Parks Department.
            • When we march, we should take our tents and set them up.
            • If we move Saturday, we need to get our tents back.
          • facilitator:
            • try to discuss whether the vote violates the principles of the movement
          • Vote is premature. Other groups are working on alternative options.
          • point of process: This is not binding. Anyone can propose amendment tomorrow.
          • Have been conflicts. Each group thinks the other is better supplied. Doesn't think we should move this fast.
          • ? – symbology of the location is less important than easy access to it. Nobody lives downtown by the park.
          • ? – represents students that cannot be here, younger school-age students. Knows people have been holding it down in face of police. Moving forward so quickly does not honor students and young people.
          • ? – uses Occupy Wall Street quite often because they are successul. Have taken bridge, mayors door, chas bank, citibank. If we grow too much, Westlake is too small. Until then, core of movement should have a spot as a command center. Consider apartment where there's electricity, showers, bed. That doesn't involve moving.
        • vote
          • time: 19:58
          • no supermajority; block stands, proposal fails

Urgent message

  • Shouting person ran, ran into semi-covert officer, was chased by police, and violently arrested. Although we ran, we meant no violence or ill-will, but intend to witness the arrest.
  • Legal: That guy was chased down and tackled because he spit on a cop.

Proposals

  • presenter: ?
    • proposal: Refuse any police interaction. Occupy Seattle will be a cop-free zone to the best of our ability.
    • restated: Occupy Seattle will be a cop-free zone to the best of our abilities.
    • restated after block: Occupy Seattle will be a cop-free zone to the best of our abilities.
    • rationale: We are experienced people who have experienced violence on part of police. Police history is catching runaway slaves, breaking strikes, killing rebellious workers. Whether through overt force or cointelpro, they are our enemy. They defend interest of the 1%. Seattle police department has history of violence, including murder of John T. Williams and many beatings of people.
    • source: People of Color Caucus
    • discussion:
      • How do you propose to handle that, tactically?
        • Group will decide.
      • I support this as person of color, middle class background, has had varying experiences with police in various cities. Though police are, economically, in same class as 99%, that doesn't change the fact that they uphold desires of the 1%.
      • Twice, police were successful in disrupting our general assembly. We should consider creating a group of people to respond with video cameras, livestreaming, and clear minds.
      • Supports proposal, stands behind with her communities. Historically, people of color have been murdered for speaking out, people have been repressed. If we are to build a global movement, must support people who are suffering from police and military repression, not only in United States, but globally. Should truly unite as community and people.
      • Most people here think of themselves as working class. Agenda of the people of color's goal in this case benefits us all. People who killed John Williams break unions, etc. Let's build unity. No police.
      • Strongly supports what others have said. Whether or not this proposal passes, stop talking to the cops. They may seem like they're trying to be nice, make conversation, but they're gathering information. They might not use it against you, but will use it against your comrades.
      • The cops may seem like cool people individually, but just like salesmen, don't care bout their customers but profits, cops don't care about people, they care about their institution.
      • Supports. Remember the WTO. The police corroboration with DHS has an impact on immigrants. She's from Arizona. They've terrorized, split communities and families. They're doing checkpoints. It affects everyone.
      • There is a word for taking the actions of one or a few and ascribing their actions to the entire group: Stereotyping. It's discrimination.
    • vote
      • time: 20:21
      • majority support
        • block
          • explanation from blockers
            • Was overwhelmingly approved. We would like to see an inclusion of nonviolence and civil disobedience of enforcing the anti-cop proposal. If we don't have nonviolence as policy, could be confusion during the enforcement of the rule, leading to detrimental action.
            • Here at Westlake, are situations all around us involving people who are potentially dangerous. Was here last night, saw intoxicated person attempt to assault people repeatedly. Heard that someone brought an assault rifle.
          • discussion:
            • Historically, cops used to separate people of color from whites. Let's not use drugs as an excuse to silence people in our movement.
            • Agrees with everything said about what people do to people of color. Is concerned that when violence is done to someone it is hard to avoid feeling anger or violence, so when we talk about this, all this anger rises up, and in our language, we are villifying and being dualistic, and talking about enemies. It's hard to stay nonviolent when our heads go there.
            • Violence wasn't mentioned in this proposal. It was that we should not talk to the cops, not include them. Part of not talking is not yelling, not provoking. Need to ensure we don't include them in this movement by becoming violent to them. This would open the door for them to enter. Need to ensure that those two arrests, after people may have assaulted police — which interrupted GA
            • supports proposal: When arrested at RNC in Philadelphia, spoke to the officer who was arresting him. Charged with 8 misdemeanors while charges against all others were dropped. Their job is to help them. Don't need to actively obstruct them if it leads to violence. This is about not helping them.
            • Opposes block. When we speak out in support of each other, we speak out against injustices at the world.
            • Addresses block: Proposal says will be cop-free zone to best of our abilities. We should have another meeting to discuss what "best of our abilities" means. People can discuss self-defense and non-violence. We should discuss the structure and responsibility of the peace and safety committee, what it means to self-govern, not rely on police. We should have discussion of what self-defense against cops means.
          • vote:
            • time: 20:39
            • average cont favoring prop: 102, opposed: 10
            • have supermajority, so proposal passes
  • presenter: ?
    • proposal: We will not call the cops on one another.
    • restated after block: We will not call the cops on one another in this movement.
    • rationale:
    • source
    • discussion:
      • TODO: review recording; wasn't able to take minutes because was reviewing past minutes for group (did we vote not to call police?)
    • vote
      • time: 21:01
      • blocks
        • blocker: Rush Shelley: Has worked in movements of peace and social justice for 25 years. This is only the second time he's blocked a consensus motion. Talking with people outside GA meeting, they walked away from an earlier decision before it was to be made. What they said is what the greater society thinks: If we don't allow police involvement, we shot ourselves in the foot. It will divide the movement and it's not enforceable. Cannot spy on each other to determine who is speaking with police. To exclude any group is against the movement. It would be non-peaceful to do so.
        • discussion:
          • This would encourage us to deal with problems ourselves.
          • Block speaks to previous proposal. This proposal is about not calling the cops. We can take care of dangerous people without their involvement.
          • Letting this block stand would cause previous proposals to unravel, including one that had block overridden.
          • Deeply committed to transformative justice and community-based solutions. We don't currently live in society that has tools, skills, etc., to deal with harm to each other internally. We can create processes to take care of each other when dealing with police, but we shouldn't set hard rule that penalizes people who feel they need to call police.
          • Proposal on Sunday was just fine. Should not remove ability to call for help if we think we're in imminent danger.
        • vote:
          • 57 for, 27 opposed, so block stands, proposal fails
    • point of process: This doesn't change previous decision that you can't call cops unless in imminent danger.

misc announcements

  • these were during block discussions
  • Zach Patton
    • missed most of GA because was at Labor Temple for Occupy Seattle Labor Caucus
    • tonight over a dozen showed up in support
    • several said they'll go back to locals to get rank and file to come support us
    • When they show up, tell them that you support them and that they don't have to be a "them" vs. "us"
  • ?
    • Need a separate event group. Outreach can't handle this.
  • ?
    • Hip Hop Occupies has experience getting up to 1000 people to events; can help
  • ?
    • Someone mentioned not recognizing faces.
      • I have a full-time job, a part-time job at homeless shelter, and daughter
      • If this represents working class, should acknowledge that some people can't make it.
      • Should be home with this family, but is here.
    • Response: didn't mean any offense to those who can't make it
  • ?
    • Came from occupy Philadelphia
      • have kitchen, snack room, educational tent
      • have workers from downtown donating
      • made her think Seattle needs tents
  • ?
    • If you disagree with people, use anti-twinkles, don't boo people.
  • ?
    • There will be a queer liberation and class struggle workshop tomorrow 4pm, by stage.
    • At 3am, woman was serving squash dishes she cooked. Police Lt. approached her and said he'd arrest her for health code violation.
      • when I tried to serve myself because he said the problem was her serving, he:
        • threw food on ground
        • through out rest of the squash
      • let's find out if a code was violated
  • police scanner apps on phones
    • when they talk about activities like this, talk on secret channel; this won't protect you
  • group is working on determining how to make UW more accessible to UW students
  • closed her Bank of America account, opened BECU, who provide referral bonuses
  • November 5 is bank transfer day: "remember, remember the fifth of November"

Announcements

  • making jewelry out of people's bank cards; has had three people change accounts after seeing her earrings
  • Saw the equivalent of special interests and lobbyists during votes. Suggests we close eyes during votes.
  • That would give the facilitators a lot of power. That's not good.
  • After GA adjourns, will talk about what, to the best of our ability, means, in reference to the cop-free proposal that was passed.
  • As the only person in the facilitator group who puts together the agenda, has one offer tonight to join, so now there are two of us. If you have an item for the agenda, find Russ by Romax.
    • Tomorrow, would normally meet at 4pm, but both people are unavailable. Suggests we meet at 5:30.
    • Clarification: Steering Committee is not part of Process and Facilitation
      • A week ago, suggested that agenda building should not be part of facilitation. So committee is set up to look at proposals and any information that needs to be on the agenda.
  • Shawn from Process and Facilitation
    • P&F meets at 4:30 by Romax sign and stays here late, so cannot be here to collect proposals at night. Russ has been taking on role of being here from noon until later to hold the agenda.
  • If Russ is going to be the steering committee, should be joined by more people, roles should be clarified
  • Today show will be filming live tomorrow in front of Pike Place Market from 7am – 10am
  • After GA, will plan for tomorrow. Have decided not to have everyone down there so we can gain trust of others. Not planning big launch.

Adjourned 21:28

General Assembly notes 10/18

Occupy Seattle General Assembly

  • Date/time: 2011-10-18 19:35
  • Location: Westlake Park
  • Minutes taken by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-18

Facilitation Team

  • Time keeper: Hudson
  • Proposal facilitation: Danica
  • Agenda facilitation: Jack
  • Keeping stack: Joshua

Campers

  • time: 19:44

  • ?

    • Last night we engaged in civil disobediance: erecting tent, I entered, some tried to join, cops pushed them back, I refused to go, I was arrested.
    • 5000 people watched on the livestream
    • Upon return, heard stories that all my fellow campers were supportive
      • formed human tents, standing on shoulders, blankets draped over heads, said, "take down this tent"
    • Was beautiful to see after yesterday's split
  • Albert
    • Last night was first night I was not at Occupy Seattle
    • Went to Occupy Portland
      • have 400-500 tents
      • have satellite location with 110
      • have library
      • have cafeteria
      • have village
      • are collecting donations for Occupy Seattle
      • consider some of our actions to be legendary
  • ?
    • some of the things at Portland are great
      • may not be practical at Westlake
  • ?
    • Why is a multi-ethnic background group meeting while they are not allowing white people as has been described by the group that cannot participate?
  • ?
    • Last night was most beautiful night I've seen at Westlake
      • people dancing, singing, not leaving
  • ?
    • has been here many nights, don't usually sleep over
    • stayed here last night, awake
      • many people, really bright lights from police cars all night
      • police and Parks were otherwise respectful
    • This area is known for people struggling with drug abuse
      • I respect their difficulty
      • Discourages some people from joining us
  • ?
    • hopes that whatever we decide tonight creates a space where more people will feel safe joining us for the whole night
  • Cameron
    • spent every night here except for last night
    • getting burned out on Westlake; help me out
  • Mike
    • advises that when we think about bringing more people and making this a more inclusive space, we prioritize people who are less privileged, most marginalized
      • including
        • people of color
        • homeless
      • thus, quite likely at any given time to have drug situations to deal with
    • would like to create space where there is understanding, tolerance, acceptance
    • two nights ago, drunk man interrupted the general assembly
      • he and medic engaged the man in police conversation
      • that people are under the influence doesn't mean they cannot be part of our community, or that their presence makes our space less safe or less productive
  • Tommy
    • spent a few nights here
    • hard to sleep when cops wake you up
    • hard to sleep when people are drumming at 4:00 a.m.
  • ?
    • thanks everyone who is here camping, fighting for those of us who are at work during the day and cannot be here
    • thanks for sleeping through drums and cop lights
    • wishes she could join

Working group reports

Legal Working Group

  • Patricia * what: Information session led by Lisa Dougaard, defense attorney who coordinates our public defense. Come if you have questions about what arrest will involve, legal status of being here, keeping safe, exercising rights, etc. * when: Wednesday October 18, 2011, 5:30 p.m. * where: Westlake Park, by main stage

Media Working Group

  • ?
    • someone convened meeting "How not to put your foot in your mouth when talking to the media"
    • WG will discuss tomorrow at 4pm to decide what should be presented to the general assembly

Information Working Group

  • Norman
    • we pass on information
    • we need to receive information
      • ex: need from each work group what time they are meeting and where
      • calendar of events, workshops, meetings, etc., so they can tell others
    • have had many reports of theft, so please watch your belongings
    • as the desert Arabs say, "trust in Allah and tether your camel"

Logistics Working Group

  • Martin
    • I've broken and set up the tent multiple times
    • broken down last time because people violated our permit
      • so keep your ears and eyes open to breach of protocol
      • if we stay organized and on same page, we can get this done
    • people step into positions of authority when they have not spent a night
    • when you see news cameras, everything is okay
    • when you see news cameras leave, police are likely to come
    • stay organized and alert your fellow citizens
    • don't leave when it rains and stay only when it's sunny
    • if you have your own agenda, you eliminate our common agenda
    • speak to others if you want to know anything about logistics, supply, sanitation, kitchen

Outreach Working Group

  • Robert and Robert
    • WG is working on two initiatives:
      • neighborhood outreach project
        • going out to green markets and other such places, setting up tables, and talking to people
      • cafe meet and greet
        • self-explanitory
    • if you want to help, have ideas for locations, etc., please see someone from outreach
      • look for smiles and Sounders colors
    • working on promotional materials
      • request feedback, particularly from Demands, Media, and Legal
    • we are at the peace tree daily at 4pm, then again after GA
    • if you know someone with design skills, please introduce us
      • we want not just content bug good looks
    • if you have experience talking to people, or are just a nice person, please join us

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • Carlo
    • please bring reusable utensils, cups, water bottles, etc., to reduce trash
    • will set up washing station
      • request assistance:
        • need large water containers
        • need vehicle to shuttle water and empty containers
    • sort trash nightly at 9pm

People of Color Working Group

  • Nina
    • observation: there are no people of color facilitating today
    • need your support as people of color allies to respect our process
    • thank their white allies who have protected them
    • hope to conduct teach-ins on
      • undoing racism
      • impact of racism and colonialism
      • prison industrial complex
    • meet daily at 5:30 p.m. near the hot dog stand at north end of park
    • please keep in mind the injustices people of color have and do suffer at the hands of police

Demands Working Group

  • Justin
    • throughout this week, WG will be collecting local demands you or people you know have
      • ex: more public transportation, more teachers in school, more bike paths, more people smiling and holding your hand
    • need a feel for what the group wants
    • anything they publish is not the final word, shouldn't be taken to represent the movement
    • not taking them exclusively this week, but focusing on them

?

  • Dan
    • several people got names of people in unions and those who would like to be to explore possibility of a Labor Union working group
    • when: tomorrow night (Wednesday, October 19)
    • where: Labor temple

Facilitation Working Group

  • Shawn
    • GA almost didn't happen tonight
    • are absorbing stress of those things
    • we're losing people
    • meet daily 4:30 under Romax sign
    • please join if you think GA is important
    • has been difficult to use process and make it work better
    • look at minutes and procedures on forums http://forum.occupyseattle.org
    • email at ProcessAndFacilitation@gmail.com

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • Circus
    • meeting was planned for tonight around 9pm, but looks like it won't happen then (GA unlikely to complete in 40min)
    • when something happens, people say, "Where is Peace and Safety?"
      • Look to yourself
      • If it's something major, grab everyone around you; don't wait

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Danica
    • need more people
    • if interested in social media, website maintenance, contact us at OccupySeattleICT@gmail.com

Finance Working Group

  • Ted (not in WG)
    • in email conversation yesterday:
      • cannot open credit union account without Federal Tax ID
    • GA has not voted on opening CU account
    • discussed concept of registering with Secretary of State as a non-profit corporation
      • this needs more discussion
      • consider that someone uninvolved could register with Secretary of State as Occupy Seattle

misc

  • ?
    • trying to get some of our gear back that the city took
      • if you lost a tent or other gear, please provide your name, description of loss
      • has pickup, needs one person to claim each tent

Proposals

  • Maria
    • proposal: On Saturday, October 22, 2011, have day of solidarity, in conjunction with National Day beginning with People's Movement Rally at noon, march Against Police Brutality, march at 2pm
    • rationale:
      • similar actions happened in other cities are successfully got involvement of wide variety of communities
      • communities of color approached us because they did not see large presence of people of color
    • discussion:
      • ?
        • when we have big demonstrations on the weekend around particular themes, that's great
        • would be very powerful if leading up to that demonstration there was self-education and teach-ins about importance of the demonstration
      • ?
        • is unaware with any problems with police during other demonstrations
        • City of Seattle likes to cause problems with marches, parades without license
        • There are enough legal cases to make us right
        • Don't fall for a trap a cop may send that our parade is illegal; keep marching
          • we have a permit for this
      • ?
        • agrees that police brutality is a problem that deserves protest, also wants to honor the police who put their lives at risk
          • problem with policy, not persons
            • at Hempfest, they emphasize the problem is not the police, it is the law
            • believes we have a problem with training police with paramilitary tactics, and that everyone is out to get them
              • if we are antagonistic toward them, makes the problem worse
              • let's emphasize change in policy; maybe we can improve things
      • ?
        • in regards to honoring police:
          • police are part of many of our families
          • police are part of the other 99%
        • until laws change, we must be vigilant and prepared for violence on part of police
      • ?
        • the radical caucus last night decided to hold workshop on police that XXX
          • need people with knowledge and expertise to assist
            • particularly people from People of Color
        • should have ongoing workshops and debate
        • regardless of whether you think cops are on your side or not:
          • will arrest you
          • will beat you
          • might kill you
          • are trying to destroy this movement
        • to join and help plan the workshop, meet by See's Candy after tonight's GA
      • ?
        • supports a march like this
        • has big concern that we're not united on how to communicate about this issue
        • doesn't want to be in group with slanderous, angry, hateful statements hurled
        • are we ready for this?
      • ?
        • have had much discussion about issue of the police
        • has been real education for people who have been here
        • police have fulfilled institutional role: making it difficult to build movement of 99% walk around at night
          • kick people who are sleeping
          • shake tents
          • kick people in tents
          • shine lights in eyes
          • it's about sleep deprivation and weakening movement
            • not that they don't have feelings, families, pat their dogs
            • institutional role is to represent interests of the 1%
      • ?
        • someone just awarded a police officer a peace and safety ribbon
        • after last nights with police ripping blankets off, kicking, etc., this is insulting
          • peace and safety representative gave it to the cop
      • ?
        • bit concerned about having march about police brutality
          • roots us in our struggle, makes it common that this is why we're together
        • movement is about our human nature and experience
        • should bond on things that are common to all of us
      • ? from Hip Hop Occupies
        • regarding the subject: doesn't have to be all about you
          • just because you have not been unjustly treated poorly by police
            • huge majority of population has
        • will meet around 10pm near 5th and Pine
      • ?
        • last night, GA was split in half on topic of police
        • we all have differences in opinion
        • getting aggressive based on your opinion is not good for the GA
        • would have loved if all those people who split instead stayed in solidarity as a group, then met at later time
      • Maria (proposer)
        • would have proposed this last night, but were told that there was only one proposal on the agenda
      • temp check: vote?
        • yes
      • vote:
        • time: 20:44
        • proposal passed

Announcements

  • ?
    • forming equality solidarity working group
  • ?
    • Seattle Solidarity Network having event
      • what: workshop
      • when: Thursday, October 20, 2011, at 6:00 p.m.
    • action
      • when: Friday, October 21, 2011, at 9:00 a.m.
      • where: 600 1st Ave.
      • march to foreclosure auction held every Friday at king county courthouse
      • general protest
  • ?
    • tomorrow at 5pm, in front of Starbucks, will be vigil of Tibetans
    • recommend attending
    • outreach intends to introduce something like mission statement
      • FYI, so far they have: Occupy Seattle is part of the global movement working to create a more just, equitable, and beautiful world
  • ?
    • what: rally for those who do not like genetically-modified food
    • when: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, at 4:00 p.m.
    • where: Westlake Park
  • ?
    • what: Seattle Central Community College students meeting
      • planning two events
      • have Occupy Seattle Club on campus
      • come meet if you're a SCCC student
    • when: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, at 8:00 p.m.
    • where: Starbucks
  • ?
    • we will have a facilitated discussion about sustainability of the movement after GA
  • ?
    • suggests reoccupation with tents again this weekend
      • try to get people to come back weekly
      • march was 3000, can do better

Adjourned 20:52

General Assembly notes 10/16

Seattle General Assembly 2011-10-16 18:45

  • Minutes prepared by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-16

Facilitation Team

  • Facilitator: Risha

Campers

  • time: 18:53
  • Noel
    • grandfather lives in Bellevue, offers beds, showers, washing machines to long-term campers who are ill
  • Mike
    • should have some coffee
  • Ruby
    • protester number three
    • camped last night
    • went home at 8am
    • tent, left here, is missing
      • red and beige Coleman
  • Albert
    • spends some nights here, some in car
    • family grows fruits and vegetables, sells at Pike Place Market
    • business lost money due to our march
  • anonymous
    • went to city hall plaza
    • felt like a prisoner
    • felt watched by police
  • Sunshine
    • If you see anyone sleeping without blanked, cover with two or more blankets
  • anonymous
    • been here two weeks
    • police have harassed
    • police said no tents
    • police said no sleeping
    • police said no possessions on the ground
    • no place to rest here
    • no place to gather here
  • anonymous
    • suggests orientation for new campers
  • anonymous
    • to deal with police tactic of sleep deprivation
    • in Air Force, rotate watch on front line
    • it's about tents, not just people
    • suggests getting someone to occupy tent for night, go home for a night
  • Tabitha
    • will have space for one person in my tent. Prefer women.
    • would be nice for smokers to go to the perimeter
  • Timber
    • reads Occupy Wall Street good neighbor policy
  • anonymous
    • If you were arrested on KOMO
      • KOMO Friday morning 7:30 a.m.

Working group announcements

Tactical Working Group

  • reorganizing
  • removing armbands
  • implementing system of accountability
  • if anything happens tonight, go to city hall
    • not reoccupying, just using it as safe place
  • police liason: Michael
    • please don't talk to police

Information Working Group

  • re: armbands: make reusable one
    • wear it at work
  • requests legal information posted at info (e.g., what to do when arrested)

Outreach Working Group

  • needs more volunteers

Medical Working Group

  • Miles
    • three people have had hypothermia
    • stay warm, bundle up
    • need more volunteers

Fundraising Working Group

  • need more people

Media Working Group

  • if you are talking to the media, please reflect us in best light
  • When talking to the meda: We have no official position or list of grievances
  • someone spoke to medda and made comments on behalf of all that were inaccurate

Internet Communications Working Group

  • Danica
  • need more people
    • contact us at occupyseattleICT@gmail.com

Hip Hop Occupies

  • launched new site
  • have multple sponsors
  • who to talk to about coordinating permanent performances

Sustainability Brigade

  • 5:30 in front of bubble tea place
  • helped Parks get bins to perimiter
    • important because police want them to go in
  • New York does deep clean weekly
  • get silverwear for use and to share
  • meeting tomorrow 5pm in front of bubble tea place

Food Working Group

  • Emily
  • appreciates listening to campers
  • next meeting: Sunday, time TBA
  • apologizes for XXX

misc

  • was police liason
  • already has such a good relationship that half tactical command provided phone numbers, are providing inside information

misc

  • Alvina
  • last night, had issue of people being aggressive to police and us
  • shouldn't have a gang of people telling you to leave
  • meeting tomorrow 5:30: strategy for police brutality day

Outreach Working Group

  • seek involvement of Spanish-speakers

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • did not meet today due to schedule conflicts
  • will meet tonight 9pm at peace tree
  • many have left tents and blankets behind
    • reuse these

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • Jacob
  • members of P&F will be available after GA

Steering Committee

  • all proposals need to be in by 5:00
  • need to be typed or written legibly

Proposals

  • proposal: either 1) move one GA per week to 7:30 (Tues, Wed, or Thur), or 2) move GA to 7:30
    • rationale: some work or live in the suburbs, making it difficult to get here by 6:30
    • clarifying questions and concerns
    • discussion
      • some people can't make 7:30, so let's just move one
      • how about M, W, F 6:30, T, R 7:30
    • revised: just move Tues and Thurs to 7:30
    • discussion
      • there are 48 hours until the change; people have time to find out,
      • some people don't have Internet access
    • vote: 19:47
      • passes
  • proposal: Outreach Committee will start to design materials
    • source: Noah from Outreach
    • clarifying questions and concerns
      • please work with media
    • vote: 19:53
      • passes
  • proposal: Hold city-wide event "Night of 5000 potlucks" urge people all over to hold potlucks, offer them topics of discussion
  • revised: Fundraising Committee and other appropriate working groups be authorized to organize a mass-potluck sometime in next two weeks
    • clarifying questions and concerns
    • discussion
      • quantification sets us up for failure
      • mayor is the enemy
        • when you identify enemies, you start losing
        • we'll have to accept support of people far more distasteful than McGinn
      • save this for when we're bigger and more established
      • need to bring people in, not go there
        • many people won't come to Westlake
      • look at what's happening around the nation
        • some mayors send police to crack heads, McGinn is not. Work with him.
      • how does this benefit occupy movement
      • 1000 with seven people is 7000
      • what about a potluck or several in other locations around but not in people's houses
    • vote: 20:12
      • block: 1), not enough time to do it well 2) shouldn't affiliate with church council, 3) concerned about issues & feels like these will be watered down, 4) it's another consumerist
        • discussion
          • pot luck is already collective sharing;
          • lots of people are already homeless, maybe can include them somewhow, instead of naming groups, let individuals make such conections
          • proposal didn't remove
      • vote: 20:22
        • block stands; proposal failed
  • proposal: adopt principles of anti-oppression and accountability based on those from Occupy Boston
    • source: Accountability Working Group
    • rationale: were tasked with devising a policy for holding people who violate our values accountable; based on
    • based on Boston's statement
    • principles:
      • We are the 99% and our task is to unify the 99%. Unfortunately, we live in a society that is racist, sexist, classist, homophobic, and ridden with various other interconnected forms of repression.
      • As the Occupy Seattle community, we will consciously and urgently work on dismantling these systems of oppression in our movement. We are working on creating a comm unity where everyone's autonomy is respected, protected, and treated equally. We all have different levels of privilege that we strive to acknowledge and educate ourselves about, in order to ensure that these privileges are not used to oppress others. We want to have an inclusive atmosphere of ideas in which we do not police each others' thoughts, but we have absolutely no tolerance for oppressive or intimidating words or actions.
      • We do not accept any of the following in our community:
        • White supremacy (racism against people of color)
        • Patriarchy (sexism)
        • Ageism (oppression against youth and/or elders)
        • Heterosexism (oppression against LGBTQ people)
        • Transphobia
        • Anti-Arab sentiment (or Islamophobia)
        • Anti-Jewish sentiment
        • Religious intolerance or intolerance of non-religious people
        • Class oppression (classism)
        • Cultural intolerance
        • Oppression base don immigration status
        • Oppression based on experiences with the justice system
        • Disregard for indigenous autonomy
        • Oppression based on appearance or size
      • The following behaviors are also unacceptable:
        • Representing the Occupy Seattle movement to the media or to any other entity without approval of the general assembly
        • Negotiating with the police or the City without approval of the general assembly
        • Instigation of violence in all its forms, explicit or implicit, whether physical, emotional, sexual, verbal, written, graphical, or through indirect means such as calling the police on another person when one is not in imminent danger
      • Any violation of these principles will be dealt with through a community accountability process, to be described in a future Accountability Working Group proposal
    • clarifying questions and concerns
      • regarding media: I understand the sentiment, but requiring GA approval will result in missed opportunities; will be hampered by this requirement; I trust them to do their job
        • no intention of preventing people from speaking to the media individually, just when representing the movement as a whole
      • should state it in an affirmative manner
      • this blank check is concerning; maybe finish proposal and resubmit
      • distrusts media group, wants restrictions
      • Canadian Union of Public XXX has a simplified policy
      • we previously agreed that working groups exist to formulate proposals and work on things that need to be done, not do anything that affects the entire group without consensus; they do not speak for the group
      • representation (e.g., our elected leaders) is troublesome
    • vote: 20:53
      • block
        • We are Occupy Seattle
        • This statement of non-descrimination comes from Boston. They say things we don't say.
        • fundamental conflict is we are autonomous and do not take orders from hierarchical structure. Boston may have consensus on 99%$, non-violence
      • block
        • Consider a class like religion. To take one subclass but not another creates a perception that multiple subclasses are not equal.
        • Principal is that we come here together. Should base on classes, not subclasses.
      • vote: blocks overridden, proposal passes
  • proposal: march from here to space needle, then occupy the base
  • revised: working groups will consider other locations including but not limited to Space Needle
    • rationale: public place
    • concerns
      • Seattle Center, while more symbolic, not as good an area to gain traction and support for the movement. Mostly tourists, who are unlikely to participate.
        • primary goal: growth. Westlake Park does not facilitate it. Regarding tourists, many people there are locals from the suburbs. Grounds provide space for us to camp. There are many indoor buildings to potentially occupy. Many friendly non-profit groups. Can still rally here after removing tents.
      • Are you suggesting a move?
        • yes
      • This is not a good time to bring up moving. Let's hold Westlake for a week or more. Not allowed to sleep here. Just got tents today. Only have them because of intense cleaning today.
      • We need to grow, then can occupy both sites.
      • It's the wrong time to move the movement to Seattle Center. We're in the heart of the city now.
      • This idea requires more thought.
    • vote: 21:30
      • proposal failed

Announcements

  • presenter: Emily
    • just got back from Occupy Wall Street
    • wants to share; let's find a forum
    • saw how people can face fear by sticking together and reminding each other to stay calm in what we believe in
    • we defended park in New York like we did here because we remained calm and stuck together
    • sees similarities between problems we're having here and they had there surrounding anti-racism, etc.
  • presenter: ?
    • make list of people who are mobile and want to stop evictions on foreclosed homes
    • flash mob a place and stop bank from foreclosing on home they don't own
  • police liason
    • we had this discussion at tactical
    • must be tactical about who speaks to the police on our behalf
    • we're working on system of rotation of liasons
    • need to develop trust
  • discussion of anti-capitalism starting now
  • Rob with Outreach: having meeting Tuesday at 7pm to talk about earlier proposal for us to create documents (a.k.a. promotional materials). Have some stuff already written. If would like to provide input, come.
  • I believe in all of you. We are all equal. We love our families. We love life. I believe in occupying here and all over the city. Has map from Parks Dept of trail reconnecting city. Can use these to move.
  • We should march to Space Needle instead of occupying it.
  • Consider blocking bank entrances and divesting from stock market.
  • Russ: agenda group will meet 4pm near Romax. Please bring announcements in writintg. After 5pm tomorrow, will have to work extra hard to get items on the agenda.

Adjourned 21:45

General Assembly notes 10/17

Seattle General Assembly 2011-10-17 18:30

  • Minutes prepared by: Phil Mocek
  • Audio archive: http://www.archive.org/details/OccupySeattleGeneralAssembly2011-10-17

Facilitation Team

  • facilitator: Kristen
  • time keeper: Paul
  • stack keeper: Emily

Urgent Proposal

  • presenter: Ed, Facilitation ad Process
    • proposal: suspend for tonight's GA proposals and decisions, replacing with open-ended discussion about open-ended concerns about what to do next, etc.
    • rationale: need to decide where to sleep, but many conversations about location seem to go to deeper concerns, so whenever we have to vote, we don't get to talk, so let's talk tonight and vote tomorrow.
      • people should decide where to sleep tonight, and we'll work on strategy tomorrow
    • vote: 18:48
      • passes

Working group announcements

Medical Working Group

  • presenter: Robin
    • haven't met lately
    • if you need basic health and hygene, go to City Hall, where are supplies are
    • making general health and morale announcements via Twitter @occupyhealthy

Supply and Storage Working Group

  • presenter: Rachel
    • Blue Man Group and stage hands from local 515 donated multiple cases of bananas
    • needs: instant cold packs
      • blankets
      • socks
      • warm clot
      • paper bowls
      • non-perishable foods (soup, canned chili, s
    • non-needs (have plenty)
      • peanut butter
      • bread
      • paper towels
      • hand sanitizer
    • donate at City Hall or email info@publicmeanspublic.org
    • need volunteers to sort donations at the warehouse

Media Working Group

  • presenter: Allie
    • concern about livestream dropping feed and lack of archive
    • considering setting up video cameras other than live stream at GA
      • if you have a video camera, please record
    • please post your photos and videos

Logistics Working Group

  • presenter: Doc
    • needs 13 trusted people, only has three

Legal Working Group

  • presenter: proxy for Gabriel
    • first legal victory: all charges against Ben Lewis dismissed due to procedural issue

Fundraising Working Group

  • presenter: Fred
    • asked for help yesterday
    • appreciates confidence in his fundraising abilities, but if you like things like dry socks, bail, coffee, consider helping

Information Working Group

  • presenter: Timber
    • suggests binder for each working group be made available at the info table
    • need more people at info table
    • are the face to the public
    • friendly and outgoing people are encouraged to join

Process and Facilitation Working Group

  • presenter:
    • trying to streamline the meetings
    • would like to spend more time discussing strategy and action, less time on proposals
    • considering making proposals developed and revised before bringing to GA
      • working on large proposal to bring group
    • meet daily, 4:30pm
    • need additional racial diversity in group
  • presenter: Jacob
    • reminder: GA voted last night to move
  • presenter
    • if you have agenda items, please notify us under the Romax sign

Sustainability Brigade Working Group

  • presenter: Tabitha
    • tonight at 9pm, regular trash/recycling/compost sorting
    • Tomorrow (Tues) 6:30, meeting under Romax sign
    • please re-use cups and utinsels
    • need metal spoon donations

Sanitation Working Group

  • presenter: Andrew i * needs people with janitorial experience
    • people need to urinate; if you know sympathetic staff at nearby bars and restaurants

Emergency Anouncement

  • police officer in attendance
    • doesn't feel safe
    • temp check: okay with this?
      • yes, okay

Internet Communications Working Group

  • presenter: Danica
    • need more people
      • social media
      • website maintenance
      • coordination with other Occupy sites
    • email us at occupyseattleict@gmail.com

Peace and Safety Working Group

  • presenter: Elvina
    • needs new emergency contact list
      • people who cannot stay overnight but willing to come down in emergencies

Hip Hop Occupies Working Group

  • presenter: Sensei Greg
    • website will be done in two days
    • linking up with multiple MCs
    • allpowertothepositive@gmail.com

Tactical Working Group

  • presenter: John
    • need to identify people who are willing to (but not hoping to) be arrested
    • we are trying to form a working group to practice peaceful tactics for use in the event of arrest

Text Messaging Group

  • presenter: Patrick Henry Sousa
    • have about 800 people on the list
    • to get on list, text "occupyseattle" to 443322

Accountability Working Group

  • presenter: ?
    • passed proposal yesterday about anti-oppression and accountability principles
    • will meet after GA to devise plan for holding people who violate principles accountable
      • please join if you have input

People of Color Caucus Working Group

  • presenter: Maria
    • formed because there are various phobias and isms in this movement
    • also addressing police brutality, violence, illegal detention and incarceration
  • presenter: ?
    • heard that there has been suggestion to allow police to sit in and participate in the general assembly
      • we disapprove
    • facilitator note: we took temperature check, found that most people are comfortable
      • temperature check: okay with this?
        • yes, okay

Open Discussion

  • time: 19:24
  • topics for discussion:
    • viability of Occupy Seattle
    • where we're going
    • what we need to do immediately
    • what we need to do long-term
  • ?
    • was here this morning, saw police target people of color
    • police took someone who was vocal about police brutality
      • cornered him, said he had a felony
      • there are other people with felonies but white, but not targeted
    • if you're here at night, you know we're kicked, have lights flashed at us
    • need to be united and for people to support us
  • Doc
    • apologizes for failing last two days
    • will triple his efforts, will not fail us again
  • ?
    • this place has serious strategic concerns
    • symbolically, Westlake Park is important due to corporate B.S.
    • should relocate to Seattle Central and surrounding area
      • green space next to it is not open like this
        • police cannot rush in
      • has historic value: staging during WTO riots
      • students are there
      • people live nearby
  • Zach
    • from Olympia
    • good job
  • ?
    • most in the crowd are white
    • during temperature check, most people were okay with it
    • most of us are not from communities that are terrorized by police
    • direct response: I'm a white female, I've had problems with police, color shouldn't be an issue here
  • ?
    • people were arrested today, so we know police are not on our side. Who are we voting for: police or the 99%.
    • if police are welcome with guns and badges, she'll not participate
  • ?
    • thanks for input from people of color
    • please offer a proposal tomorrow
  • ?
    • it's crucial to establish a sustainable green location for regular habitation
    • there are many people who want to join us 24/7 but don't want to be here, getting busted and sleep-deprived
    • need to find hospitable location for weekly living, have regular protests and weekly assemblies XXX, have major activities at Westlake
  • ?
    • stick with the progressive stack; wants to hear from traditionally-marginalized people
  • ?
    • in 1998, was attacked by SPD, defended himself successfully, beat them in court, has settlement
    • has different relationship with them now; wants to feel safe
    • not all of us grew up sheltered
  • ?
    • race does matter
    • race will matter until we make a revolution to overthrow institutionalized white supremacy
      • thought that's what we're here for
    • in Occupy Oakland, have policy that police are unwelcome in camp
      • Seattle is not as different from Oakland as people think
    • Malcom X started meetings by saying, "welcome friends and enemies"
      • knew undercover police would be here
    • cop who came tonight was here to divide us
      • let's not let them divide us
  • ?
    • tired of people treating cops who destroyed camp with respect and dignity
      • they don't deserve it
  • ?
    • was here 10 years ago before war protests
      • was teargassed, maced, shot with rubber bullets
      • treated better this time
    • tactical suggestion: If we set up tents another night, should do it in a location where it's legal
      • like earlier than 10:00 here
  • ?
    • some of us are sick about fighting over whether cops are part of the 99%
    • creating radical anti-cop caucus now
  • ?
    • announcing new group: Animal Rights and Environmentalism
    • first meeting Thurs 6pm by See's Candies
    • believes that corporations are destroying us as well as other animals
    • wants to raise awareness of what corporations are doing to the world
    • speciesism: the human construct that we are more important than other living beings on this planet
  • ?
    • frustrated by process
    • know it's hard to facilitate
    • facilitator should take control when people violate process
    • people should not yell and jump stack
      • example: say I want to talk about something someone says, but now it's 10 minutes later
      • facilitator response: we got rid of direct response because people waiting were never called due to flood of direct responses
        • facilitator should ensure that direct responses don't go on too long
  • ?
    • regarding where we should go with this movement
      • had decisive victory last Saturday: decided to occupy tents in violation of city
      • had setback this morning
        • this is reminder that SPD and other City govt are not on our side
      • should plan another big protest Saturday
      • had success last Saturday because it wasn't just the most dedicated people
      • having large protests and an occupation need not be mutually-exclusive
    • GA's would be more empowering, engaging, and inclusive if we had a political discussion every day instead of getting bogged down on process minutia and working group discussions
  • ?
    • What is happening is caucusing
    • It is imperitive for everyone to make his or her voice heard
  • ?
    • this morning, in the context of larger group
      • Saturday was a success
      • this morning was disheartening
      • cops took all our tents in 15 minutes
      • nine people were willing to get arrested
      • 5000 people were here on Saturday
    • this movement is inspiring, but need to understand important philosophical idea:
      • change happens when civil disobedience happens
      • civil disobedience happens when business is disrupted
      • we want change, and must make some sacrifices
  • ?
    • last weekend, we had a party
      • it was awesome
      • Sunday morning, we sat around and did nothing
      • Sunday night, there was drugs, alcohol, no forward movement
        • he was up all night monitoring police
        • what he heard from people was don't worry, they didn't arrest Saturday or Sunday mornings
    • this morning, Mayor McGinn tweeted, "Dear Occupy Seattle, you had a good weekend. My offer still stands."
    • We're not a threat
    • wants more planning
    • doesn't care where we stay
    • can't stay every night with his family; will stay if safe
    • we're constantly fighting
    • this morning was great training on how to root us out
  • Josh
    • has pickup truck, offers to make runs tomorrow to get tents back
  • Christina
    • likes proposal of Cal Anderson Park
    • visible
    • can easily walk to Westlake Park from there
    • should organize the tents
      • they are an important symbol
      • is willing to do this but will be out of town at Occupy Topeka for five days
  • ?
    • it was inevitable that after a victory, a disorganized group would be lax and an unorganized opposition will take advantage of such
    • there will be highs and lows
    • there will be moments of unity, moments of discussion and division
    • remember that this is a quiz, not the final exam
    • we are not done just because we are human and fallible
  • ?
    • we committed early that the loudest voice would not prevail
    • we are a leaderless movement
    • reporter from New York Times was here
    • tonight a representative from Town Hall was here trying to talk to us and figure out how to have that discussion there also
    • working groups are working daily
    • we don't just wake up and smoke
  • scuseme from livestream
    • not all of us can be there
    • but those of us who are not down there through the day must get on social media, especially those connected to the White House and let them know we're angry
  • Kendra
    • is queer youth worker
    • number of oppressed and working class are larger than
    • who will be with us: the oppressed or the working class and people of color
  • ?
    • this morning, he and three others decided not to leave their tent
    • police used knife to slice the tent open, walked three away, carried him away out of view, bent his right foot to the ground, twisted the opposite direction
      • afterward, asked other police who didn't take part of the torture if they saw it
        • they said no, they saw nothing
      • sick of pretending police are not the enemy
  • reconvened at 21:11
  • XXX – missed several speakers
  • ?
    • Westlake Park was built for protest; this is where it should be
      • Pine was originally closed to traffic; Nordstrom convinced city to open it back up
  • ?
    • suggestion that people who want to move down to City Hall
  • ?
    • uncomfortable that City Hall is presented as only alternate location
      • doesn't think we should go there just because it is repeatedly brought up
  • ?
    • we decided in GA that we would not go to City Hall
      • correction: checked minutes
  • Cory from Legal WG
    • if many people are arrested, can take cases to trial
    • city has finite resources
    • might be booked, might be held overnight, but not necessarily convicted of a crime
    • in New York, they are telling prosecutors to dismiss every case against protesters because if they try them it will clog up the system
  • ?
    • let's talk about possibilities for moving
  • facilitator: temperature check on ideas presented so far:
    • Denny Park
    • Seattle Central Community College
    • Space Needle
    • Cal Anderson Park
  • ?
    • trying to form work group to discuss privately-owned public spaces
    • has a list of such spaces that are downtown
  • ?
    • SHARE has camp in front of Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
  • ?
    • the Seattle Center green space across from Egyptian is only eight blocks up the road
      • we can stage there and come down here to raise hell
  • facilitator: remember that this is about tonight
  • ?
    • we are surrounded by privately-owned public spaces
      • Safeco Plaza
      • Wells-Fargo Plaza
      • Washington Mutual Plaza
  • ?
    • clarified with police that they're getting more than $1000
    • At SCCC, we might find support from students and faculty
  • facilitator: temperature check on going to SCCC
  • ?
    • asked for input from campers, but one who responded was shut down
  • camper
    • is staying here; others need not
    • need to maintain unity to show the world we're serious
    • Saturday's occupation was the fifth largest in the nation
  • ?
    • thousands of people support us, and will continue to do so regardless of what we choose
    • should maintain a presence in this park
  • ?
    • this is a struggle; we'll have to struggle
  • ?
    • those people who do not want to camp here or elsewhere, let's meet to talk about providing
  • ?
    • 10pm isn't a deadline; cops haven't arrested people for being in the park previously
    • spoke with a park ranger, who said not aware of any new plans
  • ?
    • we're making decisions here for tens of thousands of Seattleites
  • ?
    • just came back from visiting Occupy Oakland
      • they're kicking ass, but having a little too much fun
      • they have subgroup for overnighters
        • makes decisions specific to their group, while other decisions left to GA
  • ?
    • people at GA who are camping should join others who are not camping over at the corner

Adjourned 10:00