Get rid of the DEA. Make drugs a commodity.
I tell you what since your establishment is socialist and communist oriented go ahead and move to Cuba, North Korea, and China. Find out how great is that type of government. You don’t know how good you have it in the US. Try to live in those countries you left wing socialist, progressive, communist lovers.
You know I lived in a country in Europe that is backwards socialist as you are and I was provided everything from the government, yes, all my basic needs were met, but I lived in poverty. Socialism, communism, your logo, and government entitlements are the slave owners of the people. Keep fighting for evil and eventually you will learn the hard way when the elite owns you too.
This is not about socialism, its about proper utilization of resources. Surely we should continue to have outreach for those who abuse themselves, and do what we can to prevent people from endangering others, but we should not waste resources to persecute people who choose to responsibly experience the experiences that life has to offer.
We are here to talk about the economical system,
not a single element of it.
i agree…we are not going to start a socialist revolution regardless of how many hundreds of people in this movement want it…its not in the cards right now. can we please focus on just changing the way our politics and corporations are run. Social responsibility, accountability, criminal responsibility and economic charity should be the standards we are pushing for. we can choose what corporations we should or shouldnt support by not shopping there and informing the public of their misdeeds. i suggest more specifically targeted boycotts and demonstrations which are factually interesting and enlightening to the public. We can work on a true socialist revolution of our social healthcare and education system once we’ve laid the foundation for it. one thing at a time folks. I support all you out there with lofty goals and aspirations but we should be realistic about the change we can produce based on majority of public opinion. a socialist system wouldnt work if only 30% of the citizens agree to it. on the contrary i think we can get over 50% of citizens to support reforms in big business. – just my two cents.
Cuba and North Korea are authoritarian regimes. China, for all it’s communist propaganda is a state-capitalist society. In all of these countries the needs of individuals are subordinate to the needs a particular political class. IT IS THE SAME IN AMERICA. That is why we protest.
Drugs are a commodity. I supported getting rid of the DEA right after we get rid of drug users.
Life is a drug. To experience the world is to create new chemical dynamics within the body and mind.
A colossal waste of money.
Drug legalization strikes me as something both ends of the partisan spectrum can get behind. It promotes peace, costs less, can generate tax revenue, stem the tide of illegal immigration, and users can seek help and education without fear of reprisal.
People that are black market capitalist should not have to go to jail because of the drug enforcement machine. Congress also needs to remove cannabis from the 1975 narcotic act.
Great. So you support Drug Dealers? That’s the first time I have ever heard of them being capitalists. Shouldn’t they be taxed too? They are probably some of those Millionaires and Billionaires that Obama keeps refering to that need to “contribute” their “fair” share.
The Black Market is a product of prohibition. Yes, Drug Dealers are capitalists operating on the illegal side of a capitalist economy. Yes, if they earn profits they should be taxed accordingly.
We have discussed the “drug use” issue at last night’s GA. I believe this movement is getting derailed by passers by interpretation that it is about marijuana. Not good. Last night observed a Twitter from a KOMO4 reporter. Article was good about #occupySeattle, but then she attached it to a comment about someone offering her marijuana. This needs to end. We cannot be de-railed by drug use. To have drug policy as 1st demand sends same message. This is not the first demand I have. The first demand I have is get corporate personhood and corporate money out of political process. The main reason everything is so fucked up is because of corporate bribes toward our politicians.
Agreed. I am one who wishes to at least see the decriminalization of marijuana sometime soon, ++. But that is one of the last things on my mind at this moment in time. I feel there are critical issues at hand. I see drug law reform as being important, but not critical. Not with everything else that’s mucked up right now. I think there are far greater issues at hand. Serious, critical issues!
But I am just one of many. Yet I do think that our majority may prioritize other issues above drug laws. I this is the case, then I think the “Demands List” should reflect our priorities. ie: Put our greatest common denominator at the top, with our least at the bottom.
I’d also say that a demand such as “Abolish the DEA” is a pie in the sky statement which harms the movements credibility. With no alternative offered, I think a large percentage of our 99%’s will be put off by this demand. Most all of us have seen what meth and heroin etc have done to our communities. Real world problems exist. We need answers. Speak of reform not abolishment. Demand our right to input. Demand participatory democracy. Demand accountability.
I suggest that the root of the problem with the DEA, lies not in their existence, but in their governorship. They are a public entity. They work for us. But in actuality they don’t. That is a problem. We have no input. I think the abolish the DEA demand is better expressed by categorizing it with other demands. Demands such as give the government back to the people; demands which remove the influence that private interests have over government. etc. Those who profit on incarceration, are not the people we want directing our social policies. Hell, isn’t our greatest common denominator here that 1% of our population dictates how the other 99% exist? Focus on that. Drop a hollow specific like “abolish the DEA”. If we the people gain the power, then we can affect change.
I agree. Can we prioritize here?
*facepalm* agreed. this is getting ridiculous. focus people!
I have to agree, when I saw this as first on the list it truly made me wonder which direction this protest truly wanted to take. If in fact it’s primarily toward drug legalization I believe this movement will quite quickly undermine it’s own and our entire countries MUCH BIGGER.
I agree with you Taxpayer. These people are idiots. What they are really mad about is that they voted for the magic negro’s hope and change. Not liking what he did to the economy, they are now hoping for a change.
Asked about the protests during his appearance before Congress’s Joint Economic Committee, Mr. Bernanke said people are blaming “with some justification the problems in the financial sector for getting us into this mess.”
“At some level, I can’t blame them,” he said, pointing to an unemployment rate that remains stuck above 9%. Americans are “dissatisfied with the policy response here in Washington,” the Fed chief warned lawmakers.
Please fellow brothers and sisters, $upport the small Mom and Pop businesses that are being impacted by our presence at Westlake. They are not the problem, they too need to make a living. Thanks and Rage On!
And exactly how will you do that? After you’ve reduced their source of customers and cost them thousands of dollars. Oh well, collateral damage I guess.
Victimless Crimes should not be illegal.
What, praytell, is a “victimless” crime? Drug users engage in criminal activity and they themselves are victims. Not wearing a bicycle helmet? Again the victim is the rider.
I am proud to see so many people come together and ask for change. However I do not think we are on the right path to starting a new beginning. We need to focus on what really matters. For me I believe corporate corruption should be the 1st on the list. Does anyone here know that most prison sysytems are owned by corporations? 2nd Judicial reform, after all Cindy McCain, the wife of John McCain got off scott free for fraud, theft, forgery as well as other charges when she got busted for vicodin and percocet but the black, hispanic, or white person down the street will get 1-5 years for crack. I think this is bullshit! 3rd political reform. We need to have have complete transparency for our elected officials. We voted them in, we should know what they are earning and what the end up with at the end of the year. Our government does that to us. (It’s called filing your taxes) If they do not like that then they should not run for office. 4th Jobs, we need to open up our mills, plants and factories. We need to start manufacturing and exporting our goods, stimulate the economy and regain our footing. This will strengthen the dollar and help start paying off the national debt. 5th would be healthcare reform. We need to make sure everyone is receiving the treatment and care they deserve. If I was dying I would want to be comfortable, don’t we all. I do not know anyone who says, “I wish I was in pain.” These are the points I would hit on and in this order.
I am all for drug abolishing as long as it is the right drugs we are abolishing. Marijuana is one I would legalize. It would strengthen the economy as a new source for revenue and would eliminate 25% of the prison system itself. Not to mention that the country spends on the average $25,000 tax dollars to prosecute someone for having as lesss as an ounce of marijuana. To me this is an incredible amount of wasted money that should go back into our education, health or some other avenue of public service.
Priorities anyone? We are no a bunch of pot smokers rattling cages! At least I am not. And I don’t think this kind of demand is doing anything good for us. I want to be taken seriously.
Um, I think you are a bunch of pot smoking cage rattlers Rebel. You certainly aren’t gainfully employed and paying taxes. If you were, you wouldn’t have time to spend all day protesting.
I’m 100% sober there bud and have a FT job (with a large megacorp mind you) and I support the protests. What I don’t support are Hempfesters though trying to push their agenda through something that has nothing to do with the general idea of why these protests started in the first place. So on some level I agree with you. The message on why people are “protesting” is beginning to blur. Heavily.
Then again you’re just assuming everyone protesting is a pot smoker, so I could assume all one percenters are escort renting, coke-snorting jet setters. Which both just aren’t true. But hey, stereotypes are a real time saver for busy people like us.
The DEA is a warped, senseless organization wasting money and needlessly destroying lives. Decriminalizing and treating those who are addicted makes so much more sense and would ultimately save us money. On the other hand, some of these drugs, like Meth, have absolutely no place on this planet and we do need agressive enforcement against those who would take advantage of the weakness in human nature to exploit them for their own financial benefit.
PLEASE NO FOOLS DEMANDING THE RIDICULOUS. NO MORE SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL..
Typical dumb ass doucheBag Hippie
I was gonna come down today but upon a review of the “demands” I can no longer take this “movement” seriously.
-Abolish the dea?
-End all free trade agreements?
-Allow everyone to vote?
-No bank fees?
-Enact a system of law that is money proof?
-I think you need to CRAP CAN whoever is in charge of organizing the demands. You now sound like a bunch of goof balls.
Well, that’s the point Crap can – the protesters are a bunch of goofballs. They voted for “hope and change” in the last election and now, being dissatisfied with what the Change-Agent-And-Chief has done to the economy, they are complaining. These goofalls fail to recognize that they got what they voted for. They voted for an idiot and are now suffering the effects of ideonomics.
Might I suggest that since it seems pretty clear that no one is THAT stoked on this demand you move it from the top of the list? It definitely makes everything hard to take seriously when you click demands and this is the first thing you see.
I support the legalization of cannabis, but abolishing the DEA altogether seems a bit excessive. There still are dangerous and highly addictive drugs that need to be controlled.
Never happen. All this serves to do is minimize any legitimate concern you might bring up. Makes your org. look unprofessional and uneducated. Also, places negative outlook medical marijuana initiatives. Something Washington state has spent a lot of time and hard work passing.
If anybody would take the time to realize that the demands are arranged alphabetically maybe we’d have a little less dissension and negativity and perhaps move on to the other demands..
I think everyone realizes this, but that changes nothing. When you open a list of demands about a protest and the first thing you read is “Abolish Drug Enforcement Agency” very few people are going to even WANT to read the other demands. Just the way we as humans process things.. Maybe someone should take some time to review some communications material and revise the list. The top priority at the top would be much more effective in my opinion.
Yeah. And make all drugs free. What a great world it would be if everyone could get high for free all the time. And we get free food and free cars and free gas. Everything like electricity and internet and cell phones and flowers and water should be free. People shouldn’t have to pay for things. We can just go into stores and take everything we want. Like Walmart but you don’t have to pay for anything. I could get a hot dog and coke and a video game and some clothes and shoes, but I don’t like the really cheap shoes so I would go to the Nike place and get better shoes. And can get everything your family wants. Everything should be free for people.
I agree completely with Johonna. Some people may think that this is impossible but it is not. Our brothers and sisters in other parts of the world have NATIONALIZED all the resources and given it to the poor. YES WE CAN do it here too!
Franklin, please cite an example where this has successfully occured.
This is a ridiculous demand and with marginalize the movement. It will alienate the mainstream and give the impression that the movement is spearheaded by a bunch of pro-drug activists.
the DEA acts like a gang of THUGS in our state, where medical marijuana is authorized. The DEA and the FDA encroach on our freedom of CHOICE to use cannabis as medicine, or drink RAW MILK…federal encroachment on LOCAL rule…sucks. it is None of their business.
Legalize pot. We have lots of pot. Give pot to everyone for free. It is safe like coffee and then it wouldn’t be illegal. There wouldn’t be criminals and it wouldn’t be a money market to buy pot. Everyone would be happier and more laidback if they smoked pot everyday. Ron Paul will legalize pot.
Please don’t be offended if I can’t hire you to perform any work that involves attention to detail or hazardous/complicated tools/machinery. I’ll have the stiffs do that work cause their uptight enough to get it right. But you sound like you’d be cool to chill with.
The DEA fucks your mom bro.
Bro, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I am in the DEA and I never fucked your mom.
You must be high fuckface. I walked in on them.
I’m here for the threeway.
Hey Brah, that wasn’t my mom, that was my uncle after the change. He said you had a little dick and can’t keep a stiffy.
Does anybody want some Cialis?
Any demand starting with the letter “A” has an advantage.
sorry it was too easy
“Speak truth to power”. Not enough focus on what has happened to economy, confrontation of lies by Bush-Cheney-Obama who won’t call
for “transparency, oversight, accountability” for what has been done. Two elections full of fraud-Wall $treet piracy, lies regarding “wars”. The American people desire truth and accountability..much, much more focus on finding truth-getting it out…I doubt most people in attendance today know..we need to inform one another, as many others as possible..people know 2 administrations now have kept it secret…don’t say my truth isn’t
your truth..we are all experiencing the same lies…too much “process” today on the street…organize to get out the truth..”citizen’s united” must be rescinded, Wall $treet re-regulated..stay focused on goals all Americans can unite over…continue from there…who can follow the $$$$$…how much does it take to bring down a $6.5 trillion U.S., $16.5 trillion world economy for 3 years on the way to 20?? The number is astounding..how many know:
FREE DRUGS. FREE TIBET. KILL THE FREE MARKET. FREMONT SUCKS BECAUSE WE CAN’T SLEEP ON THE PARK BENCHES.
I think that cannibas should totally be legalized but the other drugs still need to be regulated. How would this solve that?
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