While you organize on your Ipods…I wonder what the *(&7n is going through your minds. Your either upset because you welfare has been cut, your one of the 49 percent of Americans that do not pay taxes,your degree in the leftist liberal arts is absolutely worthless, or you are paid to be there. May I suggest that you pitch your Ipods and other devices that evil corperate America has forced on you. Also in order to further show your solidarity with each other,burn your government checks you receive and Move to Cuba. Of course you could always head south and see your buddy Hugo.
Nice tu quoque brah.
Thank you for your unintelligible babble. Glad to see that those who disagree with us don’t have any new arguments.
You couldn’t be more wrong. I have a 9-5 job and make decent money! The problem is I do not make Billions a year, and cannot afford a lobbiest so my (and the rest of the 99%) thoughts are mostly ignored by congress and the white house. They only listen to those who write the biggest checks (or in many cases the companies that they have ownership in). Government and Big Business should not be so intertwined…
lol lol lol
Never attribute to malice that which can be easily explained by stupidity. Chris, you are stupid.
We own two houses, we work two jobs and don’t have an iPad. We support this project to fix this country 1,000 percent.
If we help those with less than we have than eventually people will be helping us because we will have the least. Chris, if you are unable to care about others it is not my fault or responsibility.
To the group, I have a server in California, do php, html have SQL and so on. I have also been a professional graphic designer since I was 17. I have many other skills that I offer to this group.
Until this happened me and my wife were working towards buying a house in Greece and getting out of this country because it is broken and broken badly. My family first arrived in the Americas in 1629 and are sons and daughters of the revolution and the civil war. We had a senator as well.
This country is broken and until this occupation I sincerely believed the country was beyond repair.
My skills, knowledge and experience are available to this group.
David Ferola 9 step plan
Step1) Send your TAXES to a trusted congressman or congresswoman which maybe hard to find in your state. Prepare your taxes made out to the I.R.S check and envelope,
get another bigger envelope and fit in inside write on the envelope congress address preferably to Ron Paul,
203 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone Number: (202) 225-2831
Have congress unwrap the envelopes, state you want your taxes to be mailed to the I.R.S
If you are asking yourself, what will this achieve first it can be used as a bargain chip however, congress cannot spend it or over take the fed reserve and banks system over night, nonetheless this will indeed give teeth/meat, back to congress.
STEP2) At every rally SHOUT “Send you taxes to Ron Paul!”
Or at every rally SHOUT “Send you taxes to Congress now”
Step 3) OWNERSHIP: With meat and teeth congress can demand ownership of the Federal Reserve, as to how much, well a good start would be 45 percent, of course congress should have full control of the fed reserve. However, letting the opposition think you’re a fair man goes a long way.
STEP4) Demand FREE copy rights and trademark and Patents for first timers, this will stimulate the economy, I know of someone who created the spinner rims, but he did not have the money to protect it, guess what a company/businessman from other country got there first, 4 billion dollars a year was generated and people were put to work. Having someone get there with a great idea first is nothing new, but if small American inventors had an edge it would help greatly the economy. Imagine if everyone had a little dream supported by the government for first timers.
STEP5) At every rally SHOUT “free Patents free trademarks!”
for the rest click http://inkrumguardians.webs.com/
Please leave political candidates out of this movement. This is a movement for the people, not for a candidate to run on.
Isn’t this thread supposed to be for proposals to the GA? These seem like part of the demands discussion. Is there a mod that can move these posts?
can YOU help carry the livestream for occupy seattle? http://www.livestream.com/owsoccupyseattle
LIVESTREAM team needs volunteer reporters for TODAY, TOMORROW….until we get this DONE ! be our ears and eyes! help all those who CAN’t be there…be there, via livestream …its all miraculous!
…to help the livestream team, email: firstname.lastname@example.org
LOVE LOVE LOVE TO everyone!
Hi, Andy the web guy:
It looks like you’re doing some great work here, I applaud you for that. This is the first time I’ve seen this forum page.
I don’t want to nitpick, but I can’t help but feeling that this forum would benefit from a cleaner, more visually intuitive layout.
Would it take much to “migrate” these initial posts into something like a Mingle Forum implementation? (Honestly there are only a few posts here and mostly spam at that… was this just a test run?)
I think that a well organized forum is going to be an essential component to success here. I just have to say that Portland’s forum is frankly easier to understand and navigate. Looking around at a few other sites, SF, LA, DC, even occupywallstreet.org itself, Portland’s Mingle Forum looks to be the most effective (and *most used*).
Again I applaud your work, but I think that a well organized forum will accelerate community involvement here.
I hope you’re not doing this alone. I wish I could offer my help but I don’t think my technical skills are up to the challenge. I wonder if a united technical team is forming for the Occupy movement? Maybe you could tap into that, or at least consult with Portland?
Just throwing some ideas out there.
P.S. I attempted to create a new topic through the link in the “proposals” section… it directed me to a completely blank page.
There is an internet work group that is helping, testing review alternative and working on a full rollout. We could use help in all related skill sets. Join internet and communication working group on FB at http://www.facebook.com/groups/occupyseattleinternetteam/
Would like to help and have a lot of different skill sets to offer.
Hello, I would like to recommend that you reorganize your list of demands in such as way that the plan to Abolish the DEA not be at the top of the list. Currently it is an alphabetical list and while that is a neutral way to set up the list in this case it is making this movement seem like a bunch of stoners with the wrong priorities. I would say either organize the list from most popular to least or at least find a synonym for “abolish” that falls a bit later in the alphabet. =)
Seconded! The list of demands should be filtered by popular vote.
I also attempted to create a new topic and was redirected to an error page.
All those against Government hand outs should be pleased that people are finding a way to support each other, and speak out about what they need and want. Let’s support each other to reach our highest potential. Let’s create a government that supports this goal, rather than sustain a government that prevents us from living productive, healthy and happy lives.
I’d like to submit a proposal to the GA that we hold a march in solidarity with the other planned marches on October 15th. https://www.facebook.com/globalunity15?sk=info
I think the theme should be in support of USDayofRage. The next phase in the USDOR movement is an Article 5 Convention to create a new amendment to the constitution ending corporate personhood and change the policies around donations to all political campaigns.
If we did a march at about noon down to the Seattle Center outside of Fisher plaza we’d be at the front door of KOMO4 and we should have tons of signs in support of the USDOR plans. This would help that movements ideas get attention and help to give our movement a bit of definition.
that is all
I had an idea. This may not be new (if its not I’d like to help the person working on it). We all know that the big banks are partially responsible for the economic situation. So much of our energy is spent making signs about how these corporations and their interests are being represented over the needs of the common person. But what good does a sign do. B of A doesn’t care that there are people rallying against their greedy disgusting business practices. They only care about getting money, from you and I. I know that many people involved in the case have bank accounts with one of the big banks. Want to hurt them? then we need to advocate and encourage people to close their accounts with these corporations. They are stealing our hard earned money, with ATM fees, checking fees, debit fees, inadequate funds fees etc. People are reluctant to close their accounts because they think it will be difficult. It is not that hard, people just need to know how to do it. I propose we start a group with a focus on helping people close their accounts with the big banks, and connect people with credit unions. Nothing will show discontent and outrage better than taking away the banks source of revenue. I was thinking of printing fliers with step by step instructions for closing a bank account with a list of all the local credit unions and addresses. But I’m not going to spend the money on paper if I’m the only person who thinks it’s a good idea. Opinions?
I just read an article in the NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/us/politics/wall-street-protests-gain-support-from-leading-democrats.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
about how Democrats are embracing the Occupy Wall Street message and looking for a way to turn it into a Democrats vs Republicans message. I would like to stand up right now, and say that that is bullshit. Please do not as a movement pigeon hole us into that. It will lead us to fall flat on our face. The Democrats are in bed with the Republicans. We need to stand up as a new party and demand that we not be holden to any party “ideals”. Please, please, please take a stand here.
Thank you all, for everything you are doing.
Amanda Kay Helmick
Power to the People.
Hi Amanda- Thanks for your comments. I totally agree, we should not let the Dems take over our movement, or otherwise undermine or co-opt it. Both the Dems and Repubs are responsible for the mess we have. Both parties have been bought by the power brokers, they no longer represent citizens, only their corporate masters. I’m pretty sure no one in the OS group will fall for this type of B.S. the Dems are putting forth.
With regards to Thursday’s Agenda; I think the Occupy Seattle movement would do well to consider the following.
GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney will swing through Seattle on Thursday the 13th for a fundraiser at the Grand Hyatt hotel.
This past summer, Mitt Romney was speaking at the Iowa State Fair and was quoted as saying “Corporations are people, my friend” in response to someone in the audience suggesting the taxation of corporations that have benefited from loopholes in the tax code.
“Corporations are people, my friend” – Mitt Romney
The man behind those words, whom is also one of the three most likely people to be President in 2012, is going to be fund raising for his presidential campaign three blocks north east of Westlake Plaza.
Could THIS be the real reason that the city politicos are suddenly getting forceful about trying to leverage ya’ll out of Westlake? Could someone be nervous that you hooligans might give him a grand welcoming and embarrass our fair city in the process? At the very worst, his stop in Seattle makes for an undeniably fitting protest target.
Here’s something to discuss, you are misguided in your protest. It’s the Administration’s, not Wall Street’s, policies and fiscal stimulus (tax credits, bonus depreciation, etc.) that have resulted in large corporations not paying income taxes. It’s Main Street, not Wall Street, that hires workers to fill jobs. And the fact is the bulk of investment banks have moved from Wall Street to Time Square. I watch your protests and listen to your complaints, then chuckle at your idiocy. Maybe these non-working protesters should start businesses and pay taxes. That would go a lot farther in addressing your complaints than sleeping and not bathing in Gotham.
That’s such a shallow analysis. As a self-described 1%’er I’m sure you understand that gov’t and big money work hand in hand. That’s what this is all about.
I own my own business, pay taxes, have a house and a mortgage and am part of the 99% and part of this protest.
“Anyone with eyes open knows that the gangsterism of Wall Street — financial institutions generally — has caused severe damage to the people of the United States (and the world). And should also know that it has been doing so increasingly for over 30 years, as their power in the economy has radically increased, and with it their political power. That has set in motion a vicious cycle that has concentrated immense wealth, and with it political power, in a tiny sector of the population, a fraction of 1%, while the rest increasingly become what is sometimes called “a precariat” — seeking to survive in a precarious existence. They also carry out these ugly activities with almost complete impunity — not only too big to fail, but also “too big to jail.’
“The courageous and honorable protests underway in Wall Street should serve to bring this calamity to public attention, and to lead to dedicated efforts to overcome it and set the society on a more healthy course.”
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/311959#ixzz1aUNbtV12
This might be of interest to some. I think that it supports the movement’s argument well.
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