Despite Police threats, Mayor’s office assures no arrests tonight. Can’t say same for tomorrow

Police have given an order to de-camp. They are trying to facilitate breaking down the medical tent and moving all of us to City Hall Plaza even though we have not agreed to move. This has come from Lt. Nollette of SPD.

According to Legal: “The police are currently acting against the city’s orders. The mayor’s office is calling the police to tell them to back down for tonight.”

As of writing this at 11pm there have been no arrests, but that may change.

Update 11:25pm The mayors office has given us 24 hours to come up with our demands concerning relocation, encouraging us to move to City Hall Plaza. “If we don’t come up with something reasonable in the next 24 hours they will arrest everyone in the park, and will keep doing it every night until we move.”

Despite what the Mayor’s office said the police are NOT backing down and will arrest people tonight according to the Lieutenant on site.

Update 11:47pm Regardless of whether the cops are acting with or without City Halls backing, we need folks to be ready and awake, stay calm, and should breaking down & arrests occur, try to move toward the Medical Tent.

We need people to come down and help! Come document, come show your support!

Anyone with a camera or cellphone please take as many pictures and videos as you can, send them to Media (occupyseattle.media@gmail.com) and Internet Communications (occupyseattleict@gmail.com) and post them wherever you can.

Update 10/11 12:02am Still no arrests at this point. Cops now say they may not arrest people tonight but that they could.

Update 12:11am “No arrests will occur tonight.” according to the Mayor’s Office. They came down to Westlake to let everyone know that, but they “can’t say the same for tomorrow night.”

50 Responses to Despite Police threats, Mayor’s office assures no arrests tonight. Can’t say same for tomorrow

  • Ryan Yates says:

    We are about to head to Seattle in a matter of hours, when we get to Seattle, a city we have never visited before, where should we go first to join the movement?

    • Wildpeace says:

      Right now it is raining heavily and things are centered at Westlake Park at Fourth & Pine.

      Camping is not really permitted at Westlake Park, tents not allowed, people are sleeping on concrete with tarps on top of them. Police have ordered people to de-camp but no arrests so far tonight.

      Situation fluid.

  • JamesNYC says:

    to go fuck himself.

    Signed,

    A fully employed and educated citizen.

  • Jeremy B says:

    What is being called for in response to retake/hold Westlake? Up until now I’ve only marched… after watching what happened in Boston and then hearing that the same thing is happening in my own backyard, I’m ready to show up with a sleeping bag. We need 1,000 people to flood the park tomorrow night. We can’t let them silence us!

  • JamesNYC says:

    The arrests and brutality adds to the movement and the public anger. Thank you NYPD, thank you Boston PD…. are the Seattle PD going to add fuel to this fire with their inhumane tactics?

    Unfortunately, yes.

  • Reba Swartz says:

    I understand that a few businesses like Romax may be inconvenienced by the protest, but relocating the Occupation to a less visible venue is not right. What have other cities been doing?

  • Nate says:

    Why are they threatening arrests? if your are on public ground and your not loitering in a no-loitering area you have the Right to Assembly and free speech both given by the First Amendment of the Constitution. What laws are you breaking to get arrested?

  • First timer says:

    So im new to this whole protesting thing, but I stumbled upon this posting and it really struck a chord with me. Enough so, that it bears repeating:

    All those of you who camp out in the wind and rain and cold…you are heroes. Lets keep showing the pundits and naysayers that we are not just a flash in the pan. We will remain, we will occupy this city!!! I think we should make a request to the media and general public, that they put up information (phone numbers, emails, addresses, form letters, petitions and websites) of our local/regional elected officials and publish that we are asking for specific reforms regarding the creation of an equitable tax structure, anti corruption laws and corporate regulation. If we have specific demands attached with specific instructions on how members of the general public can get involved in this process (even from home…without coming down and protesting, which is honestly what most of the 99% will be willing to do).We need to be the change that we would like to see in the world, and we need to remind the public sitting at home, of this notion. If we outline some very specific, yet broadly inclusive actions (by this i mean, no “radical” demands for abolishing the DEA or saving the whales….or whatever other causes may also seem important to many of the factions within our movement. We need to reform our nation one thing at a time…one by one, checking things off our list of grievances and then moving on to our next demand. To do this most effectively we should start with demands that include the most members of our movement as possible…ie; something to address the Wealth Gap, Corporate Accountability or Tax reform. Once one demand has been met we will have far more credibility in the eyes of the public, not to mention in the eyes of the 1% and we will make some tangible progress, while building exponential momentum. ), we will make real progress. We will have people willing to be arrested en mass and engage in civil disobedience in an entirely new and even bigger way than they are currently) I think the sooner we have some basic demands and calls to action (like the facebook organized plan to switch enrollment from the “big banks” and to join a local credit union this week) then the larger this movement will get. people are simply apathetic and overwhelmed as a whole. We need to empower the 99% and create an outline for real, measurable, social change. I am willing to participate in any peaceful civil disobedience for this purpose and would love to see others give me some input on this idea. Give the occupiers a productive reason to get arrested hehe. If you agree with my ideas, please try and suggest this course of action to others so we can discus it at the GA soon.
    Thanks for listening, Alex

    • Ed says:

      In regards to general demands, we have to wait for our much larger, “senior” brothers and sisters in NY to draft their proposals. All the movements should absolutely be involved in the process when the time is correct. In my opinion, for a host reasons, it is too early to define ourselves as an issues movement. The reason we have growing global support is that it resonates with all people who may be underprivileged, persecuted, taken advantage of, who think the system is unfair and unjust. For the past decades we, Americans, are learning (and it has to be learning process even now) that there are specific root causes to all the injustices. For example, some people protesting are against stock market manipulations with derivatives, the main cause of the economic crisis, so they want better regulation and tougher laws. But do we know anything about the new bubbles being prepared for us, nano-trading, mass overseas investments, etc. The market system is a speculative system where those with money destroy whole sectors of the economy by moving their money for higher returns. This system must change, not only the cosmetic reforms and regulations. Otherwise we will be here again in another five years. Also, social justice. This is a big topic I don’t have time to go into but, why not demand right now everything? We have been compromising for so long to the right-wingers and those in power, why not use this opportunity to, yes, save the whales and the environment, and legalize marijuana? We don’t have to be the numerical majority, this is a lesson from all revolutions, good or bad, but a forceful minority who are for justice can achieve anything in turbulent times.

    • Wildpeace says:

      Good ideas, Alex. My thought is that if people are going to get arrested, it best be in support of worthy demand or cause than for something like blocking a street for the heck of it. Earlier I posted suggesting that we demand that the City dedicate a park or land to homeless people. We should be considering that and other ideas for local demands that are in the realm of possibility.

      As to other demands, I think we can ask for the big things like a society and culture ruled by love and compassion. And that we can demand specifics, such as the following:

      * Federal prosecution and seizing of assets of executives or principals of banks and financial corporations involved in the economic recession/collapse, the ones identified in Inside Job
      * Federal law stripping corporations of personhood;
      * The resignation or impeachment of Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia from the US Supreme Court;
      * Close tax loopholes that benefit corporations and the very wealthy and repeal all tax and other subsidies for oil, coal and fossil fuels;
      * Close all old nuclear plants and phase the rest out;
      * Immediate repeal of the Bush tax cuts
      * End the wars, make reparations to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, take care of our veterans;
      * Meet the Kyoto Climate Protocols;
      * Repeal the Patriot Act;
      * Repeal laws that criminalize drug use and adotp a policy of treating drug abuse as a medical rather than legal matter;
      * Roll back the laws regulating banks, securities, securities trading to what they were in 1962;
      * Solutions to the student debt and educational costs crises;
      * Stop with the foreclosures;
      * Public health and dental care;
      * Conversion from a military to a peace economy;
      * Remodel the prisons into schools;

      Just some ideas.

      BE REALISTIC. ASK FOR EVERYTHING.

      • Ed says:

        Great ideas Wildpeace, but I want to go further on a few points. You may disagree with me, and think me a radical, but it is a radical movement. Good thing is we can negotiate peacefully even within the movement.

        - “Federal law stripping corporations of personhood;” Employee-owned corporations. There are numerous examples even in the US. All are some part owners however big it is, thus equal voice in decisions. Democratize the corporations.
        - “The resignation or impeachment of Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia from the US Supreme Court;” Popular vote of the Supreme Court members.
        - “Close tax loopholes that benefit corporations and the very wealthy and repeal all tax and other subsidies for oil, coal and fossil fuels;” Nationalize strategic companies so oil and coal companies do not work for higher profits but the national interest. (Like they do in most countries)
        - “Immediate repeal of the Bush tax cuts;” Institute progressive taxation. (Like in most countries)
        - “Solutions to the student debt and educational costs crises;” Free education to all our children and students. (Like in most countries)

        • Wildpeace says:

          I like your ideas a lot. Some of these things I and we need to think through and look at from many sides. I think we should consider carefully what can actually be accomplished. Best to start with some victories.

          Changing a few laws could make huge differences, such as outlawing lobbyists, requiring all elections and campaigns to be publicly funded with no corporate or individual gifts allowed; re-regulating banks, securities trading and financial firms by repealing all deregulation since 1976.

          We should well consider many ideas, weigh them, discuss them and hopefully our collective wisdom will settle on the best possibilities.

          Onward.

          • ARandomMonster says:

            I have mostly been following the editorials about this online, and I agree with many others in thinking that it’s premature to make demands.

            One thing that I think we can do now, locally and without much organization is begin to hold public talks from local university professors or other knowledgeable persons on subjects like political science or economics at a basic (or higher, if appropriate) level.

            Regardless of any specific changes made, without a wider understanding of economics and a generally more educated and active citizenry, this will simply happen again.

          • Asmodeus says:

            I think before we get down to specific proposals for demands, there needs to be more done in regards to clearly defining and communicating our principles. Any demands we make now will give specific points that corporate media can chew away at and discredit to make us seem like fools. We must not act rashly.

            From defined principles, flow defined objectives. We’re getting there, but I think we need to be more obtuse for the moment concerning specific demands. We’re talking about systemic reform here. We’ll need to make broad demands, then pick and choose from what is done in response to those demands by Corporate Government to favor with our support or condemnation.

            They’re desperate to make us feel like the ball is in our court, when indeed it is in theirs.

            By all means, we should be discussing and developing specific principles though. The Declaration made by the New York group is an excellent start, but there must be more.

            It’s not up to us to have all the answers. It’s merely up to us to demand that they be found and implemented.

  • Wildpeace says:

    The present situation presents an opportunity for Occupy Seattle to achieve a victory for the people. Occupy Seattle can demand that the City dedicate some land, park or other vacant land, to the homeless community, so the people can have a place to stay, to set up tents and structures, where the people can sleep in warmth, safety and dryness and rebuild their lives in community.

    Think about telling the Mayor: “OK, we will move our night camp to City Hall Plaza if and only if the City immediately dedicates land to the homeless and allows the people to live there. And we also want no covert surveillance of protestors, that the City give us indoor office space so we can keep our communications equipment dry, etc . . . [list additional demands, such as tents can stay up 24/7 at City Hall, we want to be able to run a soup kitchen at whatever location we desire, whatever, etc.].

    One reason to not move to City Hall Plaza without getting some big concessions from the City is that City Hall Plaza is right by the City/County Jail. Another is that at CHP, you are in the middle of government buildings where you are more easily gassed, where there will be fewer witnesses to governmental misconduct, and where government agents can keep you under surveillance and record your every move and word.

    Just some things to consider. It is time for something strong and positive to come out of the Occupation. I think the people of Seattle would really get behind the Occupation if it demanded land for the homeless people. We need to start getting back land the government has stolen from us, land it calls parks that we are not allowed to use except by their rules which forbid us real use of the land.

    My two cents. Freedom.

  • Anon says:

    Wildpeace: so you want to create a tent slum in downtown Seattle? That doesn’t make any sense, if aid were to go towards the homeless (going way off target here) that aid would be better served going into the existing homeless shelters, or constructing a proper new shelter, not giving a plot of land to create a permanent tent slum.

    Stay focused.

    • Wildpeace says:

      There are not enough homeless shelters, a number just closed putting 300 more people on the street. When banks kick people out of their homes and housing costs are prohibitive, where do they expect the people to go? Obviously if the government were providing or would provide adequate shelters and facilities, this suggestion would not make sense.

      Rather than the present situation in which many people are living and sleeping in cars and doorways and under bushes and bridge, where the homeless are rousted, better that homeless people be given land and space where they can have some stability, where services can be provided. During the First Great Depression, homeless people set up encampments and communities on riverbanks.

      I suppose realistically the City does not want homeless housing in the center of downtown. Yet the presence of the homeless there could move the people of Seattle to demand housing for the homeless and shows us what this brutal and unfair economic system has wrought. And anyway, the City has land other than downtown that could be dedicated to the homeless. Why not? City land is allegedly public land.

      • TooManyLaws says:

        Yes, people should not be homeless. There are too many drunken and drugg addled bums wandering around. Everyone should have a right to a shelter, and all the food they need too. And health care. In the past people had to work for this but now there are no jobs so govt should just give it to these people. And an Xbox to keep them busy. Free Xboxes for all too. And an iphone. And health and dental coverage. There oughta be a law.

        • Travis Conquest says:

          So, since they have the unfortunate circumstance of being addicted to substances we should just let them fend for themselves? These people are the lowest end of the 99%, the ones who have been consistently and totally let down by our society.

          And now, you are telling us that we should marginalize and ignore them once again? Nobody was talking about giving them Xboxes, and your sarcasm betrays your inability to think creatively or with any amount of empathy.

          These people need our help now more than ever. If we have to create a tent city, because the existing systems won’t help, then that is what we must do. Homeless or not, we are human beings and we deserve a right to live under a roof and eat food, and have at least a modicum of dignity.

          I can only hope that you never become homeless, but should it happen I hope that someone has the kindness in their heart to make sure you have a decent place to sleep and a few bites of food to put in your belly. I have been homeless, and it is nothing I would ever want to repeat (though it has happened to me more than once.)

          These are the people we can be lifting up from poverty to join our cause!!

          • Laura H. says:

            Much as I think the homeless need more help, asking for camping space for the homeless does create a side issue to the group activities. Is the Occupy Seattle group going to also offer meals and services for these people, or just offer them a place to stay? And how will the two groups mix? Kind of confuses things in the eyes of the public. Maybe make the second encampment in a different location?

          • Earthling says:

            Beautifully put, Travis.

          • SaveTheHomeless says:

            How big is your tent Travis, you should double it in size, get a bunch of blankets, and invite as many as you can fit in. I bet they’ll let you swig out of their bottle in gratitude.

            LMAO are you protesting evil corporations? Or running homeless shelters. Those bums will always exist because you will always get more of anything you subsidize. Helping drug addicted failures of society only prolongs and increases their misery, much like the UN only perpetuates war. Are you religious? Then go ahead and think you can save them. But the sole purpose of their life may one be to serve as an example to others.

          • wtfmonkeys says:

            ima comin wit’ some hot food an bringin all da’ homeless in to brake the bread with yall.

          • ZiPPi says:

            The top three reasons why people become homeless:
            1. Mental Illness
            2. Addiction
            3. Jobs going overseas

            The root cause of these is an insane drug war that criminalizes people who are mentally ill or addicted to drugs rather than treating them and laws which allow our technology and jobs to go overseas. Stop the drug war and use those funds to treat the people in 1 and 2. And stop the laws which allow our jobs to be outsourced and demand that China and other countries bring their currencies on par with the US dollar so that there is less incentive for our jobs to go overseas.

      • wesower says:

        Our current system will never bring about world peace and true democracy.

        Join us – World Peace Movement

        http://wesower.org

        • SaveTheHomeless says:

          Why do you think the world wants peace or democracy? Why do you think our system should impose it? The world is not interested, and democracy is not peace. The natural human state is competition -survival of the fittest – for resources and war will always exist. Peace is found by conquering any enemies into humiliating surrender, by making them tired of dying. Peace comes from 5.56 & 7.62.

        • Steven from Bellevue says:

          I predict it will be Texas vs Milwaukee in the world series.

  • Bill Hayley says:

    It may be difficult for the police to break you up without an incident. So please be very careful of provocateurs who may try to incite violence or damage property. The police can lawfully act on such situations to arrest you.

    Try to get a sense of the people involved. As reported in WSWS, there was an incident at the Smithsonian where a right wing journalist from American Spectator infiltrated the protest and tried to get people to attack the museum: http://wsws.org/articles/2011/oct2011/wall-o11.shtml

    • Gen says:

      Don’t tell people how to take action. The problem is the police, not criminalized behaviours. When you say “watch for other protesters” rather than “watch for police”, you’re being a cop and you need to not be involved.

      • Nick says:

        We support a diversity of tactics, yes? Don’t ridicule or exclude people for trying to protect others. Not all of us are looking to commit vandalism or violence in the name of this movement. INCLUSION. Some of us prefer to be mostly law abiding citizens.

        • Brendan says:

          As much as getting thrown in jail may be “heroic” and “Serving the cause”, I promise you that the government fat cats aren’t going to hear your tin cups beating on prison bars.

          Bill Haley has the right idea, here. Let’s everyone keep a cool head. In every situation, ask yourself if what you are doing is only making you feel better, or if it is actually helping to establish the goals we’re setting out to achieve.

          Vandalism and violence is only for if peaceful protesting fails. Let’s try it the peaceful way.

      • Bill Hayley says:

        No need to take offense. The use of provocateurs is a known tactic. That does not mean that everyone who wants to damage property is an infiltrator. But damaging property will not help anyone, except provide a short relief valve for our anger.

        I’m not asking to be not angry. I’m asking that we should channel this anger in a revolutionary direction. A revolution is not a bloody street fight. That is actually the counter-revolution, you know the one conducted by the ruling class.

        How do we win the revolution? Clearly if the soldiers, the state machinery opposes us to the end, we cannot win. But a successful revolution, in its final stages splits the soldiers from the officers. Soldiers become our friends.

        But the solider has to be convinced that we, the working class has the correct program, a carefully worked out program to run a truly democratically controlled work place, a state that puts the rights of the worker first. When the soldier sees that, and sees our determination to achieve that, he loses his soldiery and becomes our ally.

        The policeman is highly unlikely to be our ally, even if we have a sound political program. The reason is that the cop has few illusions left. He joins the police to intimidate and oppress the poorest of the people in his own neighborhood. And unlike the returning soldier, he is generally more employable.

        The most urgent task is to develop the political perspective.

  • Earthling says:

    One possible response to the Mayor’s demand that protesters come up with a relocation plan is that 24 hours is not enough time for Occupy Seattle to reach consensus on a plan. Counter that 72 hours are needed. See if they will agree in writing to that.

    Demand land where people can camp in/near downtown Seattle. Or figure out something acceptable.

  • George says:

    We need more legal expertise on our right of peaceful assembly. I found this article:
    http://learningtogive.org/papers/paper57.html

    Do we have legal expertise here that can educate us on this?

    This might be an intimidation tactic to get people to move, so I suggest that we carefully study the law around this first.

    • Sydsman says:

      While I disagree that we should be “permitted” to stay in one place or other in the city, we need to be able to have a city-wide occupation, of major public spaces (Greenlake? U-district? King Street Station area? West Seattle? Ballard downtown? 85th and Greenwood?)

      Thoughts?

      Mayor Mike McGinn: If you really believe that our call to action has merit, you will tell your damn police chief to shut up and stand down. Why can’t you be like Minneapolis mayor and REALLY support us?? I can’t believe I voted for you.

      • Adrian says:

        We should moreto where it is dry for the peple who been out last few weeks.King street stion where few hundred will be in and out everyday.Both the Mayor Mike McGinn and cops are lier!!!!

  • George says:

    Here is the official 1st amendment of the US constitution where this is mentioned:

    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

    ‘Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’

    So if they can’t make a law to limit the right of us to peacefully assemble, all they can do is to *ask* us to move, they cannot order it as we are certainly not breaking any law by assembling peacefully.

    Clearly, they do not like the exposure – Westlake is central. So they would like this moved to the City Hall where they can control this much better.

    We clearly need legal experts to educate the rest of the people occupying Westlake.

  • Ed says:

    We definitely have to get in touch with the ACLU. They have no right to remove or relocate the people from our streets. I hope the GA is contact with lawyers and other movements on how they handled this kind of situation.

    • Patricia says:

      We have a legal team member in touch with the ACLU. If/when we have an update, we will let everyone know!

      • Laura H. says:

        In our “democratic” nation, there are lots of laws that prevent peaceful assembly, such as cities requiring protest permits. I agree, going to the ACLU would be a good idea. I don’t understand exactly how these laws were passed, but there is precedent, I suppose because of the cost of policing, restricting access to streets or buildings, and costs of any damage to public or private property.

        • Ed says:

          Right now, we protect ourselves within the existing system. Later, we deal with how the system is sh!t. The advantage of NY is they are not afraid of cops.

  • Mykal Ashe says:

    The reason our beautiful city of Seattle is being aggresive from the get-go is because of what happened here during the WTO. Seattle was ground-zero of a protest that turned into an all out “batlle in Seattle”. Yes, we have the right to free assembley. Let’s assemble. During negotiations, let’s remember why our officials are reacting the way they are to our occupation, and assure them of that this occupation will not degrade into a riotous disaster. They are scared of protestors in Seattle and they created new city laws to “protect” our streets from riotous protest from happening again. We have to navigate around this issue, so let’s not forget where the city’s fear comes from. Let’s stay one step ahead of the city during negotiations. OCCUPY SEATTLE!

    • Earthling says:

      The City does not want a repeat of WTO where the media showed images of riot-geared police going ape on the people. It cost the then-mayor his political career.

      The likelihood is that at some point the police will forcibly remove the protestors and block off exit streets while they do so. The likelihood is that a police sweep will come at night when there are fewer witnesses and cameras. It’s important to remain nonviolent and to document police conduct.

  • wesower says:

    Our current system will never bring about world peace and true democracy.

    Join us – World Peace Movement

    http://wesower.org

  • Dana Briggs says:

    Bogus ‘Recovery’ Offers Households Bigger Income Drop Than Recession
    By Roger Bybee

    Progressive economist Heidi Schierholz once described America’s ongoing economic crisis—falling wages, insecure jobs, high unemployment, rampant home foreclosures—as “an experiment in stress” imposed on working families.

    But the unwilling subjects of the “experiment in stress” now seem be in revolt, first among public employees in Wisconsin and in Ohio, and now with the Occupy Wall Street movement spreading to well more than 100 cities.

    The supposed recovery has produced neither the desperately-needed expansion of jobs nor a long-awaited increases in wages, as Corporate America sits on a record $2 trillion in domestic savings (and another $1 trillion stashed overseas) available for investment and pay hikes. In fact, The New York Times reported Monday that median household income actually declined twice as fast during the recovery, which technically began in June 2009, than during the two-year recession it followed:

    continued — [url]http://www.inthesetimes.com/working/entry/12078/dismal_decade_followed_by_recovery_with_bigger_income_drop_than_recession/[/url]

  • Ira says:

    Hello Occupy Seattle! Much love to all of you who are participating in this exciting movement. I was down there for an hour on Sunday and really liked the energy. However, I found the demands group meeting I participated in to be somewhat frustrating, as it seemed to focus on minor details and neglecting major issues. I think that its hard to run a good meeting, so I wanted to post a link here to an article about consensus process written by Starhawk. It’s currently the first article on her blog: http://starhawksblog.org/

    I hope this helps with improving meetings at occupy seattle.
    Solidarity,
    Ira

  • Dana Briggs says:

    “When the corporate and political bosses hear the rising roar from the people, they start sweating. Now is time to turn up the heat without pausing.”

    – Ralph Nader

  • Brendan says:

    First: I’d like to make a comment about this message thread. Folks, we’re in this together. And we will continue to be. Let’s not flame and attack each other; We’re not the enemy.

    Second: The first amendment does protect our right to public assembly, but not where. The government is technically not stopping our protests, simply limiting where it can be. Let me be totally clear: I DO NOT SYMPATHIZE WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Simply showing you the logic they’ll use to arrest us.

    Third: Please remember that these are demands that must be met in order to RELOCATE, not end the riot. The statement from the mayor is that they must be REASONABLE. This presents a small problem; we can’t go asking for the world to be fixed. Keep in mind, after giving us notice, they are technically LEGALLY ALLOWED TO ARREST US TONIGHT. That means that their demands are really just a favor, in their eyes. They can deny these, and we’ll have no legal rope to string them up with.

    Let’s ask for room for the homeless. Let’s ask for an indoor base of operations. Let’s ask for unrestricted DAILY access to Westlake Park. Because, let’s face it, folks, no one is reading our signs at 10:30 at night.

    That is, if we’re willing to relocate at all. I’m not saying this is a wrong path, but I am saying that it may be unnecessarily painful.

    • Anonymous says:

      WHO WANTS TO GO STREAKING WITH ME?!?! I mean, let’s just do it and see what these cop clowns do about it!!!!!

  • Dana Briggs says:

    “To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness.”

    “What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction.”

    “And if we do act, in however small a way, we don’t have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.”

    –Howard Zinn