November 19th: Occupy the Super Committee Rally & Voices of the Revolution Concert!

SATURDAY NOV 19TH
WESTLAKE CENTER MAIN STAGE
12PM till 6PM

12:00PM TILL 1:00PM: JOBS NOT CUTS RALLY

http://allevents.in/Seattle/Seattle-Protest-to-Demand-Jobs-Not-Cuts!/252806074755187

See Below for More Details!

1:00PM TILL 2:00PM: SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKERS

2:00PM TILL 3:30PM: FLOWMOTION
Funk, Indie, Rock

http://www.flowmotion.net/whatsnew/

3:30PM TILL 4:30PM: OPEN MIC
[Bring us your songs, poems, rants, stories, and voices. Speak out about your experiences]

4:30PM TILL 5:30PM: CRACKER FACTORY
Rock

http://www.reverbnation.com/crackerfactory

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cracker-Factory/193562417341824

Occupy the Super Committee!
National Week of Action to tell Congress
WE NEED JOBS NOT CUTS

Join us at Westlake at noon to fight against the historic attacks against education, Medicare, Medicaid and all other social services coming from the “Super Committee”. The unelected, bi-partisan Super Committee is tasked with bringing a proposal for over $1.5 trillion in cuts to the programs we fought for decades to win. We didn’t create this crisis, and we won’t pay for it!

At a time of record unemployment and poverty, the politicians in Washington D.C. are threatening historic cuts to the country’s social safety net. By November 23, a bipartisan Congressional “Super Committee” will decide the fate of trillions in funding for extremely popular federal programs that seniors, the sick, the poor, students, workers, middle-class people, women, and others depend on. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, education funding, and other social services are being targeted.

The politicians say the government of the richest country in the world is broke. But for decades these same politicians have bailed out banks, slashed taxes for corporations and millionaires, and wasted trillions on wars for oil profits.

It was these policies that led to massive government debts. We did not create this crisis, but they want us to pay for it. They want to gut our programs to pay for an economic crisis Wall Street created.

These same politicians and their Wall Street masters are now calling for “shared sacrifice,” but they have already bled us dry. Wages have been held down for decades, benefits have been slashed, jobs have been sent overseas, and millions of homeowners have been ripped off. More Americans are living in poverty today than ever before. And they want us to pay for their crisis!

We cannot afford any of the proposed cuts to education and the social safety net. We need to build massive protests in the streets to make our voices heard. One of the two co-chairs of the Super Committee is Washington State Senator Patty Murray. By organizing major protests throughout this state, we have a rare opportunity to attract media attention and have an impact on this national debate.

Initial endorsers include Chris Hedges (Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter), Cindy Sheehan (leading antiwar activist), Matt Gonzalez (Former President San Francisco Board of Supervisors), Jill Stein (Co-Chair of the Massachusetts Green-Rainbow Party), Farheen Hakeem (National Co-chair of the Green Party of the United States), Gloria Mattera (Chair, Green Party of Brooklyn), Stephen Edwards (President, AFSCME Local 2858, Chicago, IL), Dan La Botz (teacher, writer, activist), Massachusetts Green-Rainbow Party, Socialist Alternative, Olympia Coalition for a Fair Budget, Parents Organizing for Welfare and Economic Rights

21 Responses to November 19th: Occupy the Super Committee Rally & Voices of the Revolution Concert!

  • msmikestew35 says:

    From : http://wsws.org/articles/2011/sep2011/pers-s10.shtml

    To pay for the so-called jobs bill, Obama said he would push to increase the deficit-reduction target of the congressional super-committee established last July well beyond its present mandate of $1.5 trillion, and insisted that Medicare and Medicaid had to be slashed.

    Obama’s job-creation proposals are paltry. Even were his bill to be enacted in full—an unlikely eventuality—it would create a mere 2 million jobs, according to estimates by economists. It will take 11.1 million new jobs to return employment to the level that existed prior to the onset of the recession nearly four years ago.

    The American ruling class and its political representatives have nothing to offer the American people, who are suffering in the midst of the deepest social crisis since the Great Depression. The whole problem is presented from the standpoint of what inducements can be offered to lure big business into hiring workers. This boils down to government subsidies to enable corporations to employ workers on the cheap and exploit them even more.

    What are untouchable are the vast profits of the corporations and the fortunes of their top executives and investors. The banks and corporations are sitting on a cash hoard of more than $2 trillion, amassed on the basis of government bailouts, cheap credit from the Federal Reserve and a ruthless cost-cutting campaign.

    • Bradford B. Morrison says:

      Dear msmikestew35, and all friends of “occupy” movements worldwide;
      Mike, I am really starting to get a kick out of responding to your cynicism. Hey, msmikestew35, how about an occasional positive suggestion from you about what we can or could do, or should do, to remedy the difficult situation humanity finds itself in today. Possibly, should we elect YOU to be our President, Mike??? (Or would your title be better described as “EMPEROR of CYNICISM???…LOL!!)
      Doggone it, Mike, I may be just being pollyannishly naive, but as far as I can see, the only ELECTABLE candidate of any stature in the country today is Barack Obama. I say let’s give the guy, whose performance so far seems mediocre at best, a second chance, and see how he does. Remember, Mike, that the whole world is in economic trouble, and actually the U.S.A. is not so bad off, compared to many areas. For instance, I recently heard that unemployment in IRAQ is about 60%!!…not a typo, not 6.0%, that’s 60%!! In southern Spain (Andalucia), where my oldest sister lives, it is running about 40%; and it’s about 20% for Spain as a whole. And anyway, to blame Obama for the 9.1% unemployment here is a bit disingenuous at best, Mike. Presidents of the U.S.A. don’t have nearly as much power over the economic system, or many other things, as many people think. The world is a very mysterious and complicated place, but, Mike, THERE IS A LOT OF JOY and BEAUTY in it, despite what you may think, in your cynical despair.
      Hey, Mike, I would like to challenge you to a cook-off!!!
      Beans and rice, Mike, which are very cheap and nutritious, can be made to taste absolutely great, if you know how to make the right moves with the spices and condiments!!! What do you say, Mike? I say I can make a better pot of Beans and Rice than you. Maybe I am wrong!! Let’s find out!! I dare you!!
      The point is, Mike, that our “pursuit of happiness” is not necessarily about just money. PEOPLE CAN BE HAPPY WITHOUT a LOT of MONEY, Mike. I am not saying that I can make beans and rice taste as good as rib-eye steak maybe (or whatever anyone’s favorite food is…please forgive me you vegetarians…lol); but I BET, MIKE, if YOU TRY MY BEANS and RICE, you’ll be pleasantly surprised!!
      That’s enough for now, folks…gotta go
      Peace and Love
      Loudmouth Karaoke Brad

      PS…msmikestew35, next letter I see you write, I DARE YOU TO MAKE ONE POSITIVE SUGGESTION!!
      Adios for now
      Brad

    • John Ellis says:

      MODERATOR —- WE WANT A MODERATOR

      And we want all this Mike-Brad hate stew to come to a screeching halt.

      Time destroying hate stew that only the rich could love.

    • John Ellis says:

      Title of this post locks people in darkness destroying valuable time with the illusion that this comment contains facts that prove “Organizers misleading us.”

      The rich hire people to do this sort of thing.

  • Bradford B. Morrison says:

    I frickin’ dare you, Mike, to e-mail me and set up a BEANS and RICE cook-off!! We’ll let OCCUPYSEATTLE, including anyone who shows up to eat, VOTE on whose is the the tastiest. I’ll buy you $25 worth of any kind of alcoholic or non-alcoholic drinks, at a restaurant or bar of your choice (within greater Seattle area), if my beans and rice lose out to yours. And you don’t have to buy me anything, if yours lose out to mine. I DARE YOU!!!
    Thanks for listening
    Peace and Love
    Loudmouth Karaoke Brad

    • John Ellis says:

      Post is fiction entertainment that wastes readers time.

      The rich hire paid actors to do this sort of thing.

      • Bradford B. Morrison says:

        John Ellis, and Friends;
        John, you are entitled to your opinion, as anyone is. However, if you think that I am a “paid actor”, you are very mistaken. On the other hand, the reason that I did this post, is that I do suspect the possibility that msmikestew35 IS something like a paid actor or saboteur, who may be trying to confuse the group at occupyseattle with what I consider to be extremist rhetoric. So, in an effort to find out who in the heck this guy is (msmikestew35), I did the “beans and rice cookoff challenge”. In my opinion, his lack of response so far, (as of 11/23/2011 at 1:10 am), makes it increasingly likely that he is a saboteur, paid confuser or “group divider” acting a part. I have tried to find out several times before who this guy is, but no success.
        I also, John, would like to meet you as well. Possibly I have, and cannot remember you. I have been at occupyseattle every day since Oct 1st, 2011, and have averaged about 8-10 hours a day, mostly at Westlake Park until Oct29th, when we moved to SCCC. But I am a natural “night owl”, normally staying awake until somewhere between 3:30 and 7:00 am; so I do not camp out with the group in a tent.I may begin doing that in abandoned houses. Gotta go, duty calls.

        Thanks for listening
        Peace and Love
        Loudmouth Karaoke Brad

        P.S. I am just a guy trying to make the world a better place for everybody and all of the amazing forms of life on our beautiful and mysterious planet. If I was a paid actor, I would demand a heck of a lot more pay, because I am one very smart cookie, If I do say so myself!!!

        Adios
        Brad

  • John Ellis says:

    OCCUPY MOVEMENT — TIME TO MAKE DEMANDS?

    Comes now this major change in policy for us Occupiers, a change we have yet to vote on, that we make demands of government, specify our highest priorities to government and expend our emotional capital arguing politics among ourselves.

    As for me, a pacifist who believes everything he owns belongs to those who have less, if a majority of Occupiers would ever agree on the above demands support them I would all the way.

    But, is everyone a dove on war? No.
    Is everyone far left on forcing the upper half to fund Medicare and Social Security for all of the lower half? No.

    So, unless we want to cut the size of our movement in half at this time, instead of a forced agreement on the solution, let us first reach a willing agreement on the root cause of all this government slavery and economical confusion.

    • abe says:

      We do need solutions. Whether you are on the right or the left, whether the guy you voted for got elected or not the problem is the same.

      Our representatives do not serve us they serve Washington DC power-brokers.

      How can they serve their communities if they don’t drive the same roads, send their kids to the same schools, and drink the same water as those living in their communities?

      The current 435 members in the House of Representatives are too easily corralled by selfish interests that plague the capitol. We need to bring our Representatives and Senators back to our home districts (they vote electronically) and we need to maximize apportionment for house members.

      The current apportionment of the house is set to 435 members. At this nation’s founding there were approximately the maximum allowed* 1 congressman for every 30,000 citizens. If this ratio had not been abandoned today we would have a house of representatives with over 10,000 members.

      It currently requires well over a million dollars on average to get elected to the House. An increase in apportionment would allow a people without millions of dollars or flexible morals to campaign and get elected to a seat.

      Increases the difficulty of DC based lobbyists who meet with our representatives. (travel expenses , number of votes needed to corrupt a vote)

      Makes gerrymandering districts a thing of the past.

      Increases time available for representatives to meet with residents of their District.

      This may not solve every issue but it is a step toward representative democracy.

  • HenryHughes says:

    The Occupy movement’s objective is revolution, not lobbying. The Occupy movement takes as a given that Patty Murray and the Super Committee are bought and paid for by capital. The Super Committee is part of a long-rigged process to force austerity measures, right?

    Please folks, let’s get focused on taking direct action that forces structural change. Everything else is business as usual. We’re not asking Congress to do jack shit. We’re demanding that capital get the fuck out of the game.

    A positive suggestion? Dump the PA and the spectacles at Westlake that render people passive spectators. Get to SCCC at 2:30 pm Saturday to ACT in solidarity with those subjected to state violence over the course of the Occupy encampments. The positive suggestion is to take actions that aren’t the very same things you’ve always done, things that always have the same result: techno-industrial capitalism proceeds apace, powered by capital and its able facilitator, the state, all with the blessing of us voters and consumers.

    There ain’t nothing else at this late date. Will we stop it or won’t we? Will we withdraw our support en masse? Will we take coherent action? Are we serious at all about structural change? Do we mean it when we say the disparities are despicable and the earth is being destroyed? The changes required won’t result from standing around at a jam band concert and listening to speakers while others are attempting to ACT.

    No. More. Lobbying. Fuck the Super Committee and all the rest of them. That is not what the Occupy movement is about. YOU CAN READ ABOUT IT.

    • John Ellis says:

      Its common horse sense, either you have it or you don’t.

    • ben says:

      When you say, “A positive suggestion? Dump the PA and the spectacles at Westlake that render people passive spectators”, you only serve to discourage participation. Rallying in a public central place historically has been effective in making change. If you want to do some direct action – go ahead, but don’t put down the actions of others in joining a public show of our strength and determination.

      • HenryHughes says:

        You may want to re-read what I wrote. It’s very clear that I’m encouraging participation, just not that of the passive variety. One more time: “Joining a public show of our strength and determination” has been done. Thousands upon thousands of times. Your “public show” is duly noted, and techno-industrial capitalism proceeds apace. Millions of people join public shows against war, and our government then prosecutes that war. Feel free to continue call a rally “action” if you want to, but you will never be correct.

        Please understand that I’m all for scores of thousands–how about hundreds of thousands?–of Seattle residents (and others from all over Washington) showing up en masse to occupy a central location until government and capital BEG us to allow them to make the changes we demand. What I am NOT for is more rallies–spectacles that prove and reinforce our passivity.

        It’s time to ACT, not stand around wishing for something to happen.

  • bootpower84 says:

    get some real musicians out there. fuck flomotion. all they do is promote psychedelic drugs and hippie lifestyle. typical pacifist cop out.

  • msmikestew35 says:

    Dear HenryHughes –

    I do agree with you that capitalism is past reforms. All this running around with the Democrats is done by people who have a history of betraying the working class.

    But I’m not sure if what a revolution means to you is only direct action. Certainly, revolution is nothing passive, but revolution requires a correct understanding of society as it is, and then a historical analysis of how it came to be that way.

    If we attempt ‘direct action’ without doing this analysis, we are likely to do things that are ultimately not such a threat to the capitalists.

    The burning issue is that OWS is still not doing this political discusion. The organizers are dead against this, they are seriously scared to open the venue at the GA for this discussion.

    Thus, each day, the GA meeting has been about internal issues at the camp that should be solved quickly by committees with full authority.

    The anarchist block is not willing to debate this either. This is a real tragedy because they are the most self-sacrificing group we have.

    • HenryHughes says:

      Over and over and over again, we get it, because you won’t let us forget. It’s just that not everyone involved in OS is a Trotskyist. Not all of us will agree with what you call your “correct understanding of society as it is.” In fact, last time I checked in on the debate, the many thousands of active cultural/critical theorists still disagreed about a thing or two, as well.

      Not nearly all of us share your “workerist” orientation. Some of us question what work is for, and some of us aren’t even lazy! A few of us might want to express some concern about your socialist project of rebuilding the industrial base, considering how industrialism has poisoned the planet, exhausted many of the earth’s vast resources in a relatively tiny bit of time, radically altered the habitat of countless humans and animals, and destroyed lifeways (along with the people who practiced them) that had been viable for tens of thousands of years. And so on.

      Aren’t we pretty sure that the original OWS call wasn’t about having the perfect analysis before we act? Can’t we get rolling on directly targeting capital’s institutions and their overwhelming control of politics and discourse? Or do we have to spend months or years in your socialist study group first? Those sessions make some of us a little uneasy–you know, like we might be back in Sunday school or catechism. I mean, they can seem pretty pious and rigid, don’t you think? Maybe you could just show us the sacred tablets and let us make our own decisions…

      So yeah, some of us find your economistic view of human affairs a bit problematical, not to mention your telos of the perfect revolutionary paradigm playing itself out. That’s just around the corner, eh Mike? So why not lay off the sectarian sermonizing and see what might happen in the absence of a stale, warmed over ideology?

      So, in light of the tiny bit of disagreement expressed here, it’s not too difficult to see why some folks don’t want to see GA’s turn into a political debating society. They’ve seen that film, the one where the sectarians show up to make certain nothing happens outside their very own version of ideological purity.

      Do you really want to keep telling us all about how the things we’re doing “are ultimately not such a threat to the capitalists?” Maybe you should elucidate all the looming threats the actions of the Socialist Equality Party pose to the capitalists. I have no doubt they’re quaking in their boots.

  • msmikestew35 says:

    Dear John Ellis –
    You said regarding my post:

    *** BEGIN QUOTE
    Title of this post locks people in darkness destroying valuable time with the illusion that this comment contains facts that prove “Organizers misleading us.”

    The rich hire people to do this sort of thing.
    *** END QUOTE

    The comment I made describes what the super committees is and the massive destruction it has set up to do. And I have made the case that the ‘Jobs Plan’ is a mere cover for this social devastation the committee is going to bring.

    The OWS organizers claim that the response we should make is to rely on Patty Murray to change the direction of the budget plan.

    Let us see the record so far – the thugs in office have not even allowed us to peacefully assemble, and the organizers think that their completely serious plan to roll back the quality of life of Americans a century can be stopped by a peaceful rally – again – ultimately aimed to support Obama and the Democrats as the ‘lesser of two evils’, as Brad’s comments show only two well.

    Brad is someone who knows the direction of the parliamentary block in the movement. So he is being sincere in these comments.

    • John Ellis says:

      Are you and Brad one and the same paid actor, and are you hired by the rich to destroy friendship in our Occupy movement? For it is the only explanation for your confusion that makes any sense.

      Are you totally ignorant of the fact that we occupiers hate government and want not to hear another word about all the corruption in government? I don’t think so.

  • msmikestew35 says:

    Henry – Certainly I’m not saying we need to come to a “perfect” understanding before acting. But we must try to draw lessons from our experiences.

    We have to make sure the GA is talking about the issues of the 99%. Otherwise, we will not win the 99% behind it.

    Regarding your comment on the planet, the planet has been destroyed not because of industry per say, it has been destroyed because of capitalist industry.

    Well, what is it that you think we should do to “target capital’s institutions and their overwhelming control of politics and discourse”, as you put it? Why not tell us what you think we should do.

    I suggested on a different thread to hold a people’s hearing on those who had their homes occupied by banks. So there are actions we can do, and it does not involve “pios and rigid sermons” as you put it. But the point is to make these actions relevant to the 99%.

    • HenryHughes says:

      If you had, you couldn’t utter something as credulous as, “the planet has been destroyed not because of industry per say [sic], it has been destroyed because of capitalist industry.”

      Thankfully, the planet is not yet “destroyed.” But no more of this. Arguing with a nearly unarmed opponent makes no sense, especially when all s/he has to say emanates from a rigid ideology. You can move beyond that rigidity if you care to look further. I wish you well.

  • msmikestew35 says:

    I have given you the socialist perspective. You criticize without offering your own. Every time an argument is brought up, you simply have no answer and go into hiding.

    However, you yourself said that people in the group are not sure what the problems are. Let me restate some of your comments:

    ‘Not nearly all of us share your “workerist” orientation. Some of us question what work is for, and some of us aren’t even lazy!’

    ‘Aren’t we pretty sure that the original OWS call wasn’t about having the perfect analysis before we act? Can’t we get rolling on directly targeting capital’s institutions and their overwhelming control of politics and discourse?’

    So it is clear that you have nothing in your perspective to clear these questions people in the movement have. All you can do is try to prevent a perspective from emerging by resorting to the most base tactics.